I'm not necessarily sure it will rise much. We don't know how much more (if any) this engine will cost to manufacture over the current 3V motor. I'm still having a really hard time seeing a 400hp GT though. I would love too but this just screams SE to me right now.

 

I feel Ford is going to have to make it cost around the same as the current car. Between the upcoming competition and the economy Ford is gonna have a much tougher time with this next body style even if the specs are awesome! I also feel that this next car will get better gas mileage too, My friend's 06' GT gets better mileage than my lowly 97GT (with 85 less HP) No matter how it shakes out I'm in the process of buying a house so my 97' GT and 03' Cobra are gonna be the last stangs I own for a while

 

I'd like to see (not sure if anyone posted this yet, since I dont wanna read through 8 pages to see) is the SEFI 5.0 in the base GT, and the DI 5.0 in the SE. Boss, Mach, Shelby, any of them would be fit for the DI 5.0. 50 more hp and tq, slap a race tune and a couple bolt ons we could easily crack out close to 500.

Welcome to the pony wars ladies and gentlemen!

 

Highly unlikely that a 400HP Stang will sell for less than $34K.

And there were still less GTOs (not counting the Holden and Vauxhall equivalents) made than S197s...and when they arrived they stickered for more than GTs (the later discounts notwithstanding). Bottom line: a niche car, just as are all 400HP cars.

And either way, 400HP is gonna cost you more insurance - it's just how the business works. And Ford knows full well that will reduce the number of potential buyers.

Thus, I don't see a 400HP GT happening in '10. Too good to be true.

 

I hear you. It really bugs me too. The good part however is that competition is good for making cars better. Heck even back in 1993 when I was driving around in my 93 GT, the Nissan 300 ZX twin turbo could wipe its azz on me. Then the Toyota Supra came out. Those guys were not playing around. But thats were the heads, cam, intake, and procharger came in. Soon I had nothing to worry about anymore (except for credit card bills).

Most of the imports back then sold to one type of person. People who just wanted great reliable transportation with not a lot of interest in hot rods. Times have indeed changed.

 

I must respectfully disagree for this reason. Ford desperately needs to compete with the upcoming 365/400HP base V8 Camaro, along with the 375HP base 5.7L Challenger R/T

Otherwise from a performance standpoint, the Mustang will be left behind by the competition all over again !

 

Sorry, I was refering to the 400hp SE Mustang that everyone so desperately wants, not the base GT. You won't pick this up for cheap (and don't forget the ADM's). People keep saying that Ford has some "serious" competition with regards to competing hp numbers from the Camaro and Challenger. Er, did everyone forget the GT500? And Mustangs have almost always been outgunned by the competition, with lower hpowered engines. Overall performance, affordability,appeal and balance have made the Mustang the success story it is. Even with the advent of higher rumoured hp numbers from these cars, a base GT will hang pretty close to these two and that's before any tweaking or engine change for 2010. The Camaro and Challenger are quite hefty and need this massive hp, just like the GT500.

 

So you are still saying the GT won't have a 400hp 5.0 4v in 2010/2011?

Care to go into detail, considering so many known insiders are saying otherwise?

 

Bad news, 4cam just changed his info:

 

Sales for MY 2010 will be very low if this is true.

 

I simply can't believe it. Why would there be so many mules out testing for the sole purpose of a face lift? There has to be something more mechanical centered for there to be so many mules out. Unless, thats indeed what they are testing it for (the 5.0) but just want to take an extra year of development to mak it perfect?

 

You seem to forget the entry level Z-28 Camaro, and 5.7L Challenger R/T will be competing directly with the Mustang GT. Meanwhile the GT500 will compete head to head with the 425HP SRT8 Challenger, and Camaro SS respectively.

That being said, it's already been confirmed by several Ford insiders including 4cam, that the 400HP 5.0L will indeed be included in the 2011 Mustang GT !

 

I hate to break it to you, but the GT500 isn't going anywhere, bank on it, and a 400 horse GT will be the thing getting spanked by the GT500, so no worries about that, the GT500 will always be top dog.

Do you really believe the same Ford that is making 400 horse motor for the GT will just leave the GT500 alone?

 

The Camaro is rumored to get as much as 430 horsepower out of the LS3, and the Challenger is rumored to get as much as 440, so that's what the GT has to compete against next year, just saying..

 

Not to mention the fact that the Gen V will surely be out to compete with Fords new DI 5.0 when it does come out as well. Its odd though. I still can't get over the fact that GM is still using pushrods, but combining it with DI, it just seems...well, odd. lol

 

Yep, I agree. Why does it take Ford so long to design an engine? They are light years behind GM in trucks because the 5.4 cant cut it against the 6.0 and now 6.2. Amazing, just amazing. Camaro sales just got a boost for 2010.

 

That's something that's had me scratching my head for years, it took them forever to get the D35 out, by the time the 6.2 arrives in the trucks I believe it will be 11 years in the making. It's rather embarrassing, I believe Kia and Daihatsu have faster engine development times. They are clearly way way behind the close competition, how come the Japanese and even GM can think up a new engine and have it on the road a few short years later, yet Ford takes what seems to average to almost an entire decade to design and build new engines? It's not cold fusion here, ICE engines are very basic, and with a the supercomputer technology available today there is no excuse for Ford's continental drift-like powertrain development times. It's really hurting them, if the 5.0 doesn't debut in the 2010 it's going to take a huge hit, everybody will wait until the 2011 model comes out. Hopefully the new management is addressing this mess!!

 

Eh, no 5.0 for the 2010 MY? That's a huge disappointment...

 

No big deal, gives me more time to save the $$ for my 2011, 400 HP 5.0 GT.

 

That's why I said 2010/2011

If you read the info I posted a while ago, the 5.0 wasn't suppose to bow till 2011 anyway. There was a chance at a fast track and having it ready for the 2010MY, but it seems Ford in its infinate wisdom wants to try and get sales on looks alone.



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