A little update on the MT-82 issue
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You think it's bad here. Look over at www.allfordwhiners.com and read the transmission thread. Matero is leading a crusade over there. He is kind of like Jim Jones at Jonestown. He will have his followers drinking Koolaid or waiting for the comet before long.
Anyway...I have two cars and both of them are fantastic....
Anyway...I have two cars and both of them are fantastic....
(waits for thread to be taken over by jmatero, links to AFM, stories about government investigations, television documentaries involving him, etc.
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My '11 GT/CS transmission is shifting good.....what should I do to make it screw up????? lol
Unplugged skip shift at under 1000 miles and had the fluid change per the TSB around 4000 miles back. Had no issues then and all is still good. Car is rolling over to 10,000 miles this week since the purchase on Nov. 29th.
Unplugged skip shift at under 1000 miles and had the fluid change per the TSB around 4000 miles back. Had no issues then and all is still good. Car is rolling over to 10,000 miles this week since the purchase on Nov. 29th.
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I'm still firm on my belief that skip-shift causes interference in that 1-2 and 2-3 shift. Unplugging the solenoid connector or flashing a tune with skip-shift removed makes the trans. feel better.
I'm glad that the whole MT82 whine-fest has been kept to a minimum over here. On AFM (or AFW, if you prefer LOL) it's out of control. I don't see this ABC news report, class action suit, or massive number of claims getting anywhere.
I'm glad that the whole MT82 whine-fest has been kept to a minimum over here. On AFM (or AFW, if you prefer LOL) it's out of control. I don't see this ABC news report, class action suit, or massive number of claims getting anywhere.
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Everything that has been replaced in my car so far.. I took delivery in June of 2010, car now has a little over 21,000 miles on it..
- entire clutch assembly replaced at 6700 miles, along with the pedal, and master/slave cylinder assemblies.
- car goes back for internal trans problems and has all of the following replaced under warranty:
-br3z*7m000*b cone ring sunchronizer
-br3z*7107*f ring synchronizer
-br3z*7124*c hub synchronizer
-br3z*7m000*a cone and gear asy 5th speed
-br3z*7107*f ring synchronizer
-br3z*7a010*a plug blanking
-br3z*7048*a seal input shaft
-br3z*7017*a shaft input
-br3z*7102*a gear mainshaft 2nd speed
-br3z*7107*c ring synchronizer
-br3z*7124*a hub synchronizer
-br3z*7107*a ring synchronizer
-br3z*7052*a seal asy oil
-br3z*7107*d ring synchronizer
-br3z*7107*b ring synchronizer
-br3z*7144*a gear 5th speed cluster
-br3z*7c031*c pin
-xt*m5*qs fluid
-adhesive
-NOW the trans has a leak from the rear leaking fluid all over the place, and the MT82 transmission is now on back order from Ford. I took the car in, they said they would call me as soon it came in. Trans has a loud whine all over again, and im sure its just a matter of time before this one shoots craps again. I have since cancelled my extended warranty.
Seems that Ford can issue a TSB saying we cant mod our cars at all, yet give us a ****ty trans OVER AND OVER w/ this car that cant even handle the 380hp this car makes. Im DONE dealing w/ Ford and this ****... When my warranty is up this POS trans is coming out and the T56 Magnum kit is going in. Sadley after rocking the blue oval for the past 15yrs, This WILL be the last Ford I buy, and my next sports car WILL be a Corvette.. I cant believe how Ford has cropped the ball and just let all this go and doesnt even give a **** about all its LOYAL customers.. and everyone wonders why we all decided to buy imports.. its because they are dependable, and STAND BEHIND THIER PRODUCT!!!!!
- entire clutch assembly replaced at 6700 miles, along with the pedal, and master/slave cylinder assemblies.
- car goes back for internal trans problems and has all of the following replaced under warranty:
-br3z*7m000*b cone ring sunchronizer
-br3z*7107*f ring synchronizer
-br3z*7124*c hub synchronizer
-br3z*7m000*a cone and gear asy 5th speed
-br3z*7107*f ring synchronizer
-br3z*7a010*a plug blanking
-br3z*7048*a seal input shaft
-br3z*7017*a shaft input
-br3z*7102*a gear mainshaft 2nd speed
-br3z*7107*c ring synchronizer
-br3z*7124*a hub synchronizer
-br3z*7107*a ring synchronizer
-br3z*7052*a seal asy oil
-br3z*7107*d ring synchronizer
-br3z*7107*b ring synchronizer
-br3z*7144*a gear 5th speed cluster
-br3z*7c031*c pin
-xt*m5*qs fluid
-adhesive
-NOW the trans has a leak from the rear leaking fluid all over the place, and the MT82 transmission is now on back order from Ford. I took the car in, they said they would call me as soon it came in. Trans has a loud whine all over again, and im sure its just a matter of time before this one shoots craps again. I have since cancelled my extended warranty.
Seems that Ford can issue a TSB saying we cant mod our cars at all, yet give us a ****ty trans OVER AND OVER w/ this car that cant even handle the 380hp this car makes. Im DONE dealing w/ Ford and this ****... When my warranty is up this POS trans is coming out and the T56 Magnum kit is going in. Sadley after rocking the blue oval for the past 15yrs, This WILL be the last Ford I buy, and my next sports car WILL be a Corvette.. I cant believe how Ford has cropped the ball and just let all this go and doesnt even give a **** about all its LOYAL customers.. and everyone wonders why we all decided to buy imports.. its because they are dependable, and STAND BEHIND THIER PRODUCT!!!!!
This is the THIRD time the MT82 has been on back-order this year... any thoughts on where they are all going? I'm happy to re-post each new story daily like the one above over and over and over in this thread just for folks like you spewing venom and vilifying owners. Seriously, care to pay that thread a visit and tell ALL of those owners... MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY... what you think? Care to enlighten all of us there by explaining how to get our cars to drive like they did when we took delivery?
... Well? Care to?
... Yeah... I didn't think so
Last edited by jmatero; Jul 30, 2011 at 07:51 PM.
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I am curious..jmatero..have you tracked the build dates on all of the people who have complained about the transmission? Are these transmissions early builds, or are they across a broad spectrum?
I am really at a loss to understand how so many people can not have a problem, while again, more and more do. Especially when the same problems are showing up in replacement transmissions, which you would assume are the newer built units.
If this were a manufacturing defect, it should be apparent in every unit built. And, we should all have a similar failure rate, of the same parts. For example in the '80s GM had a serious problem with their V6 automatic transmissions, the clutch plates would collapse. I would think we would be experiencing a similar situation, a specific part failing in every unit. Any engineers out there...?
I readily admit I have never, in 11,000+ miles, hit the skip shift because I rarely drive in city traffic, and on the occasion when I do, I usually use 2nd gear starts, especially in winter. The more I drive trhe car, the better the transmission feels. I was going to do the fluid change and decided against it since I am not having a problem, why let them mess with it?
Just thinking out loud...it is a shame so may people are unhappy with an otherwise fine car.
I am really at a loss to understand how so many people can not have a problem, while again, more and more do. Especially when the same problems are showing up in replacement transmissions, which you would assume are the newer built units.
If this were a manufacturing defect, it should be apparent in every unit built. And, we should all have a similar failure rate, of the same parts. For example in the '80s GM had a serious problem with their V6 automatic transmissions, the clutch plates would collapse. I would think we would be experiencing a similar situation, a specific part failing in every unit. Any engineers out there...?
I readily admit I have never, in 11,000+ miles, hit the skip shift because I rarely drive in city traffic, and on the occasion when I do, I usually use 2nd gear starts, especially in winter. The more I drive trhe car, the better the transmission feels. I was going to do the fluid change and decided against it since I am not having a problem, why let them mess with it?
Just thinking out loud...it is a shame so may people are unhappy with an otherwise fine car.
Last edited by SD CALSPCL; Jul 30, 2011 at 08:58 PM.
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I am curious..jmatero..have you tracked the build dates on all of the people who have complained about the transmission? Are these transmissions early builds, or are they across a broad spectrum?
I am really at a loss to understand how so many people can not have a problem, while again, more and more do. Especially when the same problems are showing up in replacement transmissions, which you would assume are the newer built units.
If this were a manufacturing defect, it should be apparent in every unit built. And, we should all have a similar failure rate, of the same parts. For example in the '80s GM had a serious problem with their V6 automatic transmissions, the clutch plates would collapse. I would think we would be experiencing a similar situation, a specific part failing in every unit. Any engineers out there...?
I readily admit I have never, in 11,000+ miles, hit the skip shift because I rarely drive in city traffic, and on the occasion when I do, I usually use 2nd gear starts, especially in winter. The more I drive trhe car, the better the transmission feels. I was going to do the fluid change and decided against it since I am not having a problem, why let them mess with it?
Just thinking out loud...it is a shame so may people are unhappy with an otherwise fine car.
I am really at a loss to understand how so many people can not have a problem, while again, more and more do. Especially when the same problems are showing up in replacement transmissions, which you would assume are the newer built units.
If this were a manufacturing defect, it should be apparent in every unit built. And, we should all have a similar failure rate, of the same parts. For example in the '80s GM had a serious problem with their V6 automatic transmissions, the clutch plates would collapse. I would think we would be experiencing a similar situation, a specific part failing in every unit. Any engineers out there...?
I readily admit I have never, in 11,000+ miles, hit the skip shift because I rarely drive in city traffic, and on the occasion when I do, I usually use 2nd gear starts, especially in winter. The more I drive trhe car, the better the transmission feels. I was going to do the fluid change and decided against it since I am not having a problem, why let them mess with it?
Just thinking out loud...it is a shame so may people are unhappy with an otherwise fine car.
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Go ahead, shoot the messenger. We get an owner a day posting their cars are in the same shape as mine. Every Day. Care to stop by and tell ALL of them they're whiners? Or on a crusade? The television story isn't about me... i'm not even participating in it. They interviewed enough owners in the same mess. The government investigation is NOT a story... owners posted all week they got calls and are scheduling their cars to be inspected. Do you want to stop by there and call all of them liars? This is just one example of the type of story posted by new members almost every day (this one from just this morning):
I know you don't like to hear this... and I'm on no crusade... I just want Ford to honor their warranty and fix these cars. Telling owners to hire attorneys and lemon their cars when they clearly aren't lemons... because they don't want to fix the issue... is pretty pathetic. Lemons are anomalies. Those one in a 50,000 cars off the line. There are only 23,000 MT82 Mustangs out there in the world.
This is the THIRD time the MT82 has been on back-order this year... any thoughts on where they are all going? I'm happy to re-post each new story daily like the one above over and over and over in this thread just for folks like you spewing venom and vilifying owners. Seriously, care to pay that thread a visit and tell ALL of those owners... MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY... what you think? Care to enlighten all of us there by explaining how to get our cars to drive like they did when we took delivery?
... Well? Care to?
... Yeah... I didn't think so
I know you don't like to hear this... and I'm on no crusade... I just want Ford to honor their warranty and fix these cars. Telling owners to hire attorneys and lemon their cars when they clearly aren't lemons... because they don't want to fix the issue... is pretty pathetic. Lemons are anomalies. Those one in a 50,000 cars off the line. There are only 23,000 MT82 Mustangs out there in the world.
This is the THIRD time the MT82 has been on back-order this year... any thoughts on where they are all going? I'm happy to re-post each new story daily like the one above over and over and over in this thread just for folks like you spewing venom and vilifying owners. Seriously, care to pay that thread a visit and tell ALL of those owners... MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY... what you think? Care to enlighten all of us there by explaining how to get our cars to drive like they did when we took delivery?
... Well? Care to?
... Yeah... I didn't think so
Here is a link to your thread where I would suggest that you post all of your stats, links, etc. https://themustangsource.com/f726/jm...9/#post6114014
BTW, I guess I'm misinformed, but are you sure that Ford only built 23,000 manual transmission Mustangs since the 2011 hit the dealer lots a year and a half ago? That seems like a pretty low figure. What percentage of those have problems with their transmissions?
Last edited by Rather B.Blown; Jul 31, 2011 at 01:17 AM.
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We haven't been able to find any relation between build-date and shifting issues. We have Job-1 2011's that are perfect, and Job-2 2012's with transmission replacements. At the moment, the issue that has NOT been seen with 2012's on a wide-spread basis is the clutch... which is new for 2012 and not backwards compatible according to Deysha at Ford.
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A clue here would be that the tranny replacement part number posted by 2011 owners as recently as yesterday is the same as the one used in my car back in November 2010. However, we have identified 3 different MT82 part numbers used in 2012 replacements since April 2011.
Which leads me to believe Ford thinks the issue was the clutch and transmission internals for 2011's. They changed the clutch and continue to update the transmission internals on 2012's. Which also leads me to believe they clearly intend to leave 2011 owners in the dust.
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Could be a few things. There could be a change to the input shaft on the transmission.
A clue here would be that the tranny replacement part number posted by 2011 owners as recently as yesterday is the same as the one used in my car back in November 2010. However, we have identified 3 different MT82 part numbers used in 2012 replacements since April 2011.
Which leads me to believe Ford thinks the issue was the clutch and transmission internals for 2011's. They changed the clutch and continue to update the transmission internals on 2012's. Which also leads me to believe they clearly intend to leave 2011 owners in the dust.
A clue here would be that the tranny replacement part number posted by 2011 owners as recently as yesterday is the same as the one used in my car back in November 2010. However, we have identified 3 different MT82 part numbers used in 2012 replacements since April 2011.
Which leads me to believe Ford thinks the issue was the clutch and transmission internals for 2011's. They changed the clutch and continue to update the transmission internals on 2012's. Which also leads me to believe they clearly intend to leave 2011 owners in the dust.
Do everyone a favor and check your emotion at the door. Or, keep it on AFM.
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These are exactly the comments that have made people hate you. You have little comprehension of the topic and the legal implications of the comments you make, but your emotion and disgust for YOUR car blind you and you continue to make off-beat comments.
Do everyone a favor and check your emotion at the door. Or, keep it on AFM.
Do everyone a favor and check your emotion at the door. Or, keep it on AFM.
He is so blinded by his disgust that he does not realize the majority of us without problems do not want to brought down by his continual bombardment of negativity.
He is basically J-ANCHOR, the one that brings everyone else down.
I tried ignoring his posts for the longest time. It helped to quit reading the posts over at AFM, but now he comes here which is where I drew the line and had to say something.
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You have a TR6060, your car would flat out rape an MT82 by dint of its increased torque rating. IIRC the MT82 is rated right around what the 5.0 puts out but nobody has specfied at what wieght.
The MT82 would be a poor match for the GT500 in any event since the steep 1st and 2nd gear combined with the GT500's power curves would just produce even more burnt rubber than usual.
The MT82 would be a poor match for the GT500 in any event since the steep 1st and 2nd gear combined with the GT500's power curves would just produce even more burnt rubber than usual.
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Originally Posted by bob
You have a TR6060, your car would flat out rape an MT82 by dint of its increased torque rating. IIRC the MT82 is rated right around what the 5.0 puts out but nobody has specfied at what wieght.
The MT82 would be a poor match for the GT500 in any event since the steep 1st and 2nd gear combined with the GT500's power curves would just produce even more burnt rubber than usual.
