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Old May 5, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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Post A little update on the MT-82 issue

Wow, just got off the phone with my dealership. I wanted to make an appointment for an oil change and let them know of my engine tick and some suspension noise I been hearing up front. I also mentioned the rough shifting and my adviser said that they had done a "bunch" of those. For him, he must have done at least 15 cars. I was shocked when I heard this since when I called about 2 months ago to have it changed, they didn't even have the fluid in stock. I was going to be the first one to have it done and I opted out to wait.

Shocking. I guess the issue is widespread. This is a dealership in NOVA area. He also stated that people that had the fluid replaced, didn't return...yet. I told him Ford is working on a new fix, since fluid is temporary. He laughed. I was quite encouraged to hear that the number of cases has risen. I really thought it was sporadic issue, but it might be more widespread then we initially thought.

Thought you guys might like to hear that. The newest updated from a ford rep is that the engineers are really looking into the issue and trying to resolve a new fix for it.
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Old May 5, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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From Deysha over at Ford CS on AFM.

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I understand things are not moving very fast for you guys. However, believe me, this is being investigated and diligently worked on. Patience my people, patience.

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Old May 5, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Step 1: Stop production in China
Step 2: Move production to USA
Step 3: Eat massive retooling costs and PR hit
Step 4: Learn that sometimes, saving money costs you more money in the long run, and that you can't trust Chinese QC.
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Old May 5, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye18
Step 1: Stop production in China
Step 2: Move production to USA
Step 3: Eat massive retooling costs and PR hit
Step 4: Learn that sometimes, saving money costs you more money in the long run, and that you can't trust Chinese QC.
100% agree
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Old May 5, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye18
Step 1: Stop production in China
Step 2: Move production to USA
Step 3: Eat massive retooling costs and PR hit
Step 4: Learn that sometimes, saving money costs you more money in the long run, and that you can't trust Chinese QC.
+1. If Ford is reading these boards, and I trust they are, they should listen to the consumers!
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Old May 5, 2011 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye18
Step 1: Stop production in China
Step 2: Move production to USA
Step 3: Eat massive retooling costs and PR hit
Step 4: Learn that sometimes, saving money costs you more money in the long run, and that you can't trust Chinese QC.
This...or Getrag's German division.
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Old May 5, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye18
Step 1: Stop production in China
Step 2: Move production to USA
Step 3: Eat massive retooling costs and PR hit
Step 4: Learn that sometimes, saving money costs you more money in the long run, and that you can't trust Chinese QC.
How does it being made in China have anything to do with the issue that SOME people are having? My iPad is made in China and it's pretty darn nice. My condo was built in America and it's falling apart. Just saying that maybe the issue is in the design and not necessarily the execution IMHO.
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Old May 5, 2011 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Kona

How does it being made in China have anything to do with the issue that SOME people are having? My iPad is made in China and it's pretty darn nice. My condo was built in America and it's falling apart. Just saying that maybe the issue is in the design and not necessarily the execution IMHO.
Comparing apricots to cashews?
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Old May 6, 2011 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kona
How does it being made in China have anything to do with the issue that SOME people are having? My iPad is made in China and it's pretty darn nice. My condo was built in America and it's falling apart. Just saying that maybe the issue is in the design and not necessarily the execution IMHO.
There is physical and first hand eyewitness evidence that the materials/design/QC of these transmissions is, how shall I say it... imperfect?.

NO new transmission should be shedding teeth and pieces of gears to the bottom of the tranny case, or grinding gears, or preventing shifting gears, just like NO new iPad should smoke and spark when you turn it on - if your iPad did that, may I suggest that you'd have a different take on the situation? Since iPads don't self destruct, one could deduce that Apple has more stringent standards on their contractors than does Ford...

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Old May 6, 2011 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Kona

How does it being made in China have anything to do with the issue that SOME people are having? My iPad is made in China and it's pretty darn nice. My condo was built in America and it's falling apart. Just saying that maybe the issue is in the design and not necessarily the execution IMHO.
Do you really want an answer. I am going to assume you are kidding and that this is rhetorical.

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Old May 6, 2011 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye18
Step 1: Stop production in China
Step 2: Move production to USA
Step 3: Eat massive retooling costs and PR hit
Step 4: Learn that sometimes, saving money costs you more money in the long run, and that you can't trust Chinese QC.
^^ I also 100% agree. ^^
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Old May 6, 2011 | 05:17 AM
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people that really know anything in this thread, zero
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Old May 6, 2011 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by shadowstang03gt
people that really know anything in this thread, zero
+0 !
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Old May 6, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by shadowstang03gt
people that really know anything in this thread, zero
Does this include you?
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Old May 6, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Imagine that, junk coming out of China who knew. lol
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Old May 6, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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If they wanted quality they would have went to Japan.

they wanted quantity and cheap...they went to China...
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Old May 6, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Ford and Getrag tried opening up shop in the states for this venture. The economic climate destroyed any hope of that happening though.

I believe they were looking at Virginia to build the factory.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 10:07 AM
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They should look at building one in Milwaukee
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Old May 6, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jlmounce
Ford and Getrag tried opening up shop in the states for this venture. The economic climate destroyed any hope of that happening though.

I believe they were looking at Virginia to build the factory.
Here's a newsflash... Detroit has thousands of skilled auto workers, with unemployment thru the roof...

Too bad the Peoples' Republic of Amerika is so business unfriendly that FORD... FORD!! (you know, HENRY Ford's iconic American company?) was forced to China to get a transmission they could afford to put in a $35k muscle car...

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Old May 6, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmbbo
Here's a newsflash... Detroit has thousands of skilled auto workers, with unemployment thru the roof...

Too bad the Peoples' Republic of Amerika is so business unfriendly that FORD... FORD!! (you know, HENRY Ford's iconic American company?) was forced to China to get a transmission they could afford to put in a $35k muscle car...
You're preaching to the choir here man! The tax code in this country is so full of holes and corruption that we see this happening. It's our own fault.
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