2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

How do you feel about your '10-'14 after the reveal of the S550?

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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 10:47 PM
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The more I think about it, I'm not sure if the 4 banger will be a big seller here in the US.

The guy who is looking at the 4 banger may say, why the hell would I buy a 4 banger when I can get the 5.0 for a few thousand more. For a few thousand more one will step up to the V8 and forget about the 4 banger. That 4 banger will be fast as heck but doesn't matter how fast, in the eyes of people, one will get laughed at when you say you have a 4 cylinder mustang.

I don't see the 4 banger selling that well unless the 5.0 is so grossly overpriced that the 4 banger is 7 to 8 k less. From my understanding, the 4 banger turbo is speculated to be costly and close to what the 5.0 costs.
Dang, for some of us older members, this sounds just like 1984 when the SVO Mustang debuted. Great handling Mustang with a 2.3L Turbocharged 4 cylinder. Too close in price to the 5.0L GT and Americans just couldn't give up their V8's. So, the SVO model only survived until 1986. History is definitely repeating itself!!!
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 10:50 PM
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If they did, the only possibility I could imagine is a 2018 model for the 50th anniversary of the movie.
Yeah, just like the 2001 Bullitt was created just in time to celebrate the 33rd anniversary of the movie.

Honestly, though, they've played out the Bullitt theme enough.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian

Dang, for some of us older members, this sounds just like 1984 when the SVO Mustang debuted. Great handling Mustang with a 2.3L Turbocharged 4 cylinder. Too close in price to the 5.0L GT and Americans just couldn't give up their V8's. So, the SVO model only survived until 1986. History is definitely repeating itself!!!
I do believe it will be the same in 2014 as 1984 here in the US
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 06:18 AM
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I am still mixed on how I feel about the 2015 Mustang, one of my co-workers (an import guy) absolutely loves the new Mustang, this makes me a bit uneasy. It seems like one day I like it, the next day I can't stand it, most definitely a love hate relationship at this point. I only had about a week with my '14 before I had to leave her, so I am eagerly waiting to get back to my car and don't think she is going anywhere anytime soon. I will definitely wait and see how this plays out in the next few years though, especially with how much I liked the changes in years following the 2005 overhaul.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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i feel goood now
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 08:19 AM
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i feel goood now
Just put a pony emblem on the grill and there you have the new mustang.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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I like the new Mustang and welcome it to the family. However, I sill love my '10 GT.

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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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It's been over a week now, so I'm definitely over the "shock" aspect of it. So even after looking over the pictures again, I'm still much preferring the 10-14 style. It's just more my cup of tea.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 08:52 AM
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The more I learn and look at the 2015 GT, the more I like it. Almost wished I had waited, instead of getting my 2013GT. To have the ride and handling (probably even better) of my Subaru Outback, and the power of the 2013 GT; it just makes me drool.
Since I have the 2013, it's not going anywhere anytime soon. Who knows, when I'm ready, I may replace it with a WWII tank, or an old Corvette; they're just toys.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
I do believe it will be the same in 2014 as 1984 here in the US
What's the current V6 vs. GT split? I want to say it's 75/25? I have little doubt the 4-cylinder will sell well if it performs as advertised. Remember, everybody said truck buyers wouldn't give up their V8's either and here we are with the EcoBoost V6 as the most popular engine in the F-150.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 09:29 AM
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Great feedback from all of you guys...sounds like opinions run all over the place.

I'm still torn. I'm still completely satisfied with my '11 GT but it definitely feels "less than" in a lot of ways and I seriously doubt that road tests (and seeing the car in person) will mitigate that feeling.

So we're supposed to have that reaction and the example on the opposite side of the spectrum is what Ford is trying to avoid, I think... The Mazda Miata.
I'm a huge Miata fan... I have logged well over a quarter million miles on those cars and they never, never stop being enjoyable. They don't wear out, they don't break, they just keep dispensing endorphins. New Miata body styles come out with some objective improvements...but NONE have been and more fun than the previous models. There have been no compellign reasons to give up your 1990 model (which probably still runs great with 250,000 miles) because the new one, while nicer in some ways, isn't a better sports car experience.

So Ford knows that there are specific and tangible ways in which a new Mustang can outclass the previous model. In this case, the new car has a modern suspension, lower/wider proportions, lots of new tech and a significantly upgraded motor...and a new motor choice all together.

Suddenly, the older Mustangs look: OLD and Ford wins.

There is a life lesson in here about materialsm and learning to be happy with what you have...I just don't quite have that lesson under my belt. I'm seriously lusting for a 2015 GT in Competition Orange and that sweet new version of the Coyote.

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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 13GetThere
To have the ride and handling (probably even better) of my Subaru Outback, ...
Are you specifically referring to better traction in all-weather conditions and bumpy surfaces while cornering?
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CiniZter
i feel goood now
My point exactly! The '15 Mustang looks just like that. The thing that I love the most about the looks of my 2014 is that it doesn't look anything like any other Ford product at the moment.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MRGTX
I'm seriously lusting for a 2015 GT in Competition Orange and that sweet new version of the Coyote.
And what options (from what is known) do you really like? And when are you going to order??
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
Dang, for some of us older members, this sounds just like 1984 when the SVO Mustang debuted. Great handling Mustang with a 2.3L Turbocharged 4 cylinder. Too close in price to the 5.0L GT and Americans just couldn't give up their V8's. So, the SVO model only survived until 1986. History is definitely repeating itself!!!
IIRC, the SVO was actually more expensive than a 5.0 GT back in the day. Ford isn't going to make that mistake again; they've made it clear that the EB4 is a step up from the V6, but firmly beneath the V8 in the lineup. I think it has much more chance of success this time around, not least of all because the EB4 is clearly going to be the 'standard' non-USDM motor. And for the reasons below:

Originally Posted by newpony
It depends how Ford packages it. What I see happening is the V6 will be only offered for fleet sales and the basic trim. Premium/Performance trim will be offered only with the 4 banger. V8 will have the option of basic/premium/Brembo of curse just like we have now.
From what's leaked on M6G, that's exactly what's going to happen. It looks like there's no performance package for the V6 at all; and not even any performance wheel/tire options - just 235 width 17" or 18" all-seasons. You're going to need to step up to the 2.3EB to get the performance pkg w/ summer tires. solid 4-pot brakes, and a torsen LSD as even an option.

There's going to be a legitimate market for the 2.3 EB I think; just not from guys who've been dreaming about V8 Mustangs for years (and can afford one). It is absolutely going to fight with the likes of the Genesis coupe, FRS/BRZ Toyobaru twins, 370Z, etc.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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Like the improvements but a big thumbs down on the Euro headlights. Ugh.

Happy with my 14 GT!
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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Love the new specs, but the body is not making me regret buying a '13 despite the fact that it does make the S197 look big. I'm hoping some tweaks will make want a future S550 variant though.
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 01:38 PM
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All I know is tonight when I'm done working I'm getting in bed and loading up "Bullitt" into my iPad, plugging in the headphones and enjoying it for the 50th time lol

No girly GPS or XM Radio for Steve!

lol

TH
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by oceantracks
All I know is tonight when I'm done working I'm getting in bed and loading up "Bullitt" into my iPad, plugging in the headphones and enjoying it for the 50th time lol

No girly GPS or XM Radio for Steve!

lol

TH
He says from his iPad, lol
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Old Dec 13, 2013 | 01:55 PM
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Ha!

It's funny though...that's really one reason I didn't care about getting any extras on my GT except the 3.73 rear....I really liked the idea of a simple muscle car.

When rented a SUV (Navigator) recently while the GT was in the shop, we all got REAL used to luxury inside. So next time I will probably save the pennies to get some more creature comfort!
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