Whats a wrench? Lol

 

Kyle... You were doing SO good, then you fell prey to another thread prompted by a user's inability to use the search function, made worse by people who spout off here thinking they know all there is about oil...

Shame.

Haha, kidding Kyle. Trust me, the many things I want to say about this thread...

Yep. This thread is once again going to be useful and useless at the same time. I hope mods step in soon to stop the garbage that's already been spewed.

 

I was gonna go with Vegetable oil, but then I read that Canola has higher burning point. Higher burning point = better protection

 

Why would the mods step in. Nobody here has been disrespectful. Nobody is fighting about anything. Nobody is threatening bodily harm. Lol. Were just having a nice debate about the OP's question. No big deal. Many people have their own opinions and believe their correct. If someone uses 5W 20 then rock out. If someone wants too use a hair thicker oil as 5W 30 then rock out. By using 5W 30 oil the engine will not explode so if it does provide a slight better protection then what's the harm? If 5W 30 oil doesn't provide any better protection then what's the harm? Either way no harm in using 5W 30 oil for our cars.

I have been using 5W 30 oil in my wife's mini van for 9 years, 118,000 miles and never a days issue, however the cap reads 5W 20.

 

Yes, FromZto5, there's a search function, but it will not provide the documented proof that any sort of damage will occur with 5w-30, which is one of the questions that have been brought up here. I'm interested (still) in that.

If this bothers some, move along. Nothing for you to see here. No need for those to post.

I can read past what some consider "spewed", and hope some answers are provided (documented).

After all, it was a long, long, long time before the Harley owners would accept synthetic oils in their bikes. Even Harley would "spew" that synthetics were not recommended for their bikes.

Then they started selling synthetic "Harley branded" oil. Funny.

 

To your point, I am not sure if this thread, or any other, for that matter will ever have documented proof that 5w30 will/may damage the stock coyote engine. If it does turn up, great... Meanwhile, I think the fact that you have those miles racked up with no issues is "documented proof" enough. Don't you think? I believe ya

Ps how are those gt500 muffs? Still good? Been over a year now since we exchanged?

 

Has there been any proof or claims that using 5W 30 causes damage to an engine that calls for 5W 20 oil.

 

Trolling..................

 

I've had my oil tested on all of my cars twice a year for the last 10 years. I'll tell you what I don't admire. Your attitude. You have no clue who I am or what my "car resume" looks like.

Good for you. Your oil would have been good for almost 14k miles. Want a prize? Does it make you special because you tested your oil? The fact is that there are numerous variables to your statement. What oil was used, driving habits, climate, etc. Coming on here and make a statement like you made is poor form. You can't make arbitrary recommendations on the internet. What if the OP went 14k because YOU said it was ok and killed his motor?

Sure I've read the stuff on forums. But I take it and form my own opinion that comes from over 15 years in the auto sales and mechanic industry.

So just because I explain an couple of things that are completely accurate and truthful, you definitively determine that I must be some know nothing a hole that thinks he's an expert from reading forums?

Well based on that deduction I'll go ahead and assume that you're a 16 yr old brat that doesn't know a wrench from a lug nut. I don't suppose you've actually re-built a motor before, have you?

 

Careful Kona, you might be accused of being dumb and simply regurgitating forum info you read with comments like that. Since, you know, no one except people who test their oil at Blackstone are able to know what their talking about.

 

Exactly the type of garbage I was trying to avoid. I bet you have a zombie plan. All these looney toones these days with their conspiracy theories. Sorry you feel that Ford walks on water and that simpleton logic like "why doesn't Chrysler do it?" makes you right. But the CAFE req is very real and the only reason 5-20 is what's on the cap.

 

Agreed. 5-30 has a much broader rage for heat resistance. Universally, on any car, 5-30 will be excellent. We know that the motor can run 5-20 and we know it can run 5-50. 5-30 is a good middle ground. Better mpgs vs 5-50 and better protection vs 5-20. This is indisputable from oil tests. Not sure why people make a big deal about it.

Running either 20 or 30 I'm sure will give years and years to your motor. Even to the point where if the motor running 5-30 dies at 300,000 miles and the 5-20 does at 290,000, was oil the reason for the extra 10,000 miles? Who knows (and who cares with that milage lol). IMO I like the piece of mind knowing that 5-30 offers more protection.

 

You're the one claiming its a Ford conspiracy - a trick - oh wise one.
And the question is reasonable - if your lie is correct, every company in the industry would jump and make the switch for owners that drive under 'normal' conditions. And Ford would have also changed it on the 4.0 for Mustang and F150 because that sixer mileage sucks.
But as usual, you - like the other liars - provide zero proof. Just internet "facts" from self proclaimed internet "experts".

Use what you want to use. But keep your lies about Ford off the forum.

 

"Oh wise one" ??? Lies ???

What makes you correct vs me? Why am I a "liar"? Because I've analyzed around 50 personal oil tests and repaired numerous motors, so I've seen first hand the internals with various oil weights and driving habits. That means that I'm wrong? I never said Ford is scamming anyone or being sneaky. I simply said that their recommendation is motivated primarily from CAFE. Where is your proof that this is not the case? Maybe you're the liar?

Since there is no concrete evidence (to your standards anyway) for either side, it's basically called an opinion dude. But if you want to be closed minded and arrogant feel free.

Just don't tell me what I can or can not speak publicly about on a public forum. And next time I'll try to be more sensitive toward you and your intimate relationship with Ford. Lmao!!!

 

I'm with you bro. Based upon speaking with numerous mechanics and extensive research on oil topics my decision was 5W 30. I'm not saying 5W 20 is bad but think 5W 30 provides better protection too the engine. I don't see the downside in using 5W 30 weight. Somebody please explain why not too use 5W 30 weight and what damage is it going too cause.

The way I see it, its possible extra protection for your engine life and wear and if its no better than 5W 20 , then you have nothing too lose. Both weights cost the same so why not use 5W 30 weight.

 

Nothing like another 'which oil' thread to start another silly pissing contest. Keep calm and eat bacon.

 

Mmmm bacon

 

I love Bacon

 

And you wanna know "why" I predicted the mods would jump in? Experience my friend... Experience. Once a question like this topic has been asked, there's too many attitudes and egos that no one can't go pissed.

 

I hear ya on that but I don't think anyone is upset or pissed off. Perhaps there will never be a solid factual answer. I've read articles that claim using 5W 20 can and will shorten ones engine life and cause more wear on it opposed to using 5W 30. Now, is that true? I have no idea, however after speaking with numerous people in the automotive field and extensive research I believe 5W 30 oils do a better job providing protection to ones engine.

Whats the harm in using 5W 30 oil? What damage is it going to cause except make the engine wear better and last long