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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Well thank god every Mustang is a "classic" is all I gotta say!

'Cept for the Mustang II, of course.
Your right ! Some are just more "Classic" than others!..........
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by blkstang06
Yes major changes in 2010! and thats why the 2009's will become sought after in years to come! 2009 Will be basically a one year unique body style! Plus 45th year of Production! 2009 will be a keeper year!........

Hey pops, where you gettin' your info?? You porkin' Oprah or something??
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Easy there cowboy...the 2009 was originally the planned year for the redesign (by redesign I mean not a tweak here and there, but not a new platform) but was pushed to 2010MY

- 2010MY (in 2009) will be like the 98-99 change, hardly a minor tweak
Every panel save the greenhouse will be changed. and new interior

As for looks, those who have seen it, say it looks aggressive compared to the 2005MY. Yes it does have hips.

From people who were shown this car at last years autoshow, Ford apparently was afraid of the 2010 looking similar in style to cues on the 2010 camaro, and would be refered to as ripping it off, even though the design for that car was completed way prior (they have been working on the 2010 since 2005/2006 if I remember correctly)

Now if you put that timeline together, and Guigiaro has been working on his car since ... oh... say the 2005 mustang was revealed...

...and ford shows the Guigiaro concept at the LA Autoshow....

Do you not think the Guigiaro has NO inspiration what so ever from the car we will see for sale in 2009?
If you think anything otherwise of them using it as a vehicle (pun intended) to gauge reactions to the cars looks, your crazy.
Think Mach3 concept. Very dramatic and crazy, but if you look closely, you see where the 94s came from in that car.

I have not seen the 2010, however I was given the privelage of seeing the 2005 production car a year before it was unveiled at the autoshow.
But I believe the people who have told me about the 2010...
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tom281
Hey pops, where you gettin' your info?? You porkin' Oprah or something??
Eww...

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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Eww...

Porkin' the editors of Motor Trend more like

Sidenote: Do you think Ford would be dumb enough (no jokes here..seriously..) to go up against the 2010 Camaro... with a 'minor tweaked' 2005??? like change a bumper here... change the trunk there..???

Now Mullaly has stated that to stay competitve, that they will be refreshening their products with Mid Cycle Changes sooner (2-3 years) compared to the 5 now.
The 2005 will be long in the tooth (5 full product years) by the time the 2010 rolls around.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Sidenote: Do you think Ford would be dumb enough (no jokes here..seriously..) to go up against the 2010 Camaro... with a 'minor tweaked' 2005??? like change a bumper here... change the trunk there..???
I agree with you. And I have talked to people who saw the new car at Cobo, and said that the Guiagario influence is definitely present in the 2010 model.

Originally Posted by Boomer
The 2005 will be long in the tooth (5 full product years) by the time the 2010 rolls around.
Will you stop saying that! Jeezus!

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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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hahah sorry...
actually the car is such a hit, i think it could be like 67 compared to the 65.... both kickin, one's just a tad newer

So I retract that statement, somewhat
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
I agree with you. And I have talked to people who saw the new car at Cobo, and said that the Guiagario influence is definitely present in the 2010 model.
That's disapointing since I do not like the frontend of the Guiagario. I think they could meld a little more of the 69 front-end style with the rear of the 67-68 into the next revision.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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I'd reserve judgement till I see it...

If infact the spy shot of the 2010 mule is any indication (and it's hard to say since its heavily camo'd)
The front end (bumper/grille) may have the lines of the Guigiaro... but not exact. as the front still had fogs in the grille like the 05, and theres no way those lights would fit into the Guigiaro front end.
I also don't think it's as flat and chopped in the front.

Any indication would say, take the 05s bumper dimensions, and mold in the guigiaro lines. Would make it look aggressive.. closer to the look of the GT500. Which is apparently what the 2010 will be, more aggressive.

The quote I heard from someone who saw it was "If you like the 2005, you'll love the 2010" mind you, not everyone will like the changes. Can't please everyone.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tom281
Hey pops, where you gettin' your info?? You porkin' Oprah or something??
Stirred! not Shaken! and so shall the 09 Mustangs be........
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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What we really need are some decent renderings.....I'm getting impatient!
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Think Mach3 concept. Very dramatic and crazy, but if you look closely, you see where the 94s came from in that car.
I like that analogy.....dont think you are geeting the Guigario car....but similarites will be apparent...

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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Well thank god every Mustang is a "classic" is all I gotta say!

'Cept for the Mustang II, of course.
Why do people have to bash the II? I had a couple of those and they were a ton of fun. Small, light and the 302 was an option. The 302 still had a ton of torque. When my 302 started to rattle, I rebuilt it with more power. No biggie. On Gratiot, I shocked a lot of 60's early 70's muscle.

OK...I know it is off topic... sorry...
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ttbit
Why do people have to bash the II? I had a couple of those and they were a ton of fun. Small, light and the 302 was an option. The 302 still had a ton of torque. When my 302 started to rattle, I rebuilt it with more power. No biggie. On Gratiot, I shocked a lot of 60's early 70's muscle.

OK...I know it is off topic... sorry...

Sorry to step on your dream car but I had a '75 hatchback. It was my first and worst car I've ever had. It was a gutless 4 banger and the weld joints rusted out where they attached the roof to the front window uprights. It was 4 speed standard and the clutch was crap. 1975 isn't the only year I curse. I had a '84 with the same rusting weldjoints. The only improvement was better engine and clutch. I love Mustangs. In my order of mfgr. preferences I put GM last. Ford and Chrysler a close tie for first with Chrysler having the edge because I like their styling and the Mustang is the only Ford that really excites me. The Japanese and Korean cars are in a class of thier own. They have great reliablility but they all look the same these days.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ttbit
Why do people have to bash the II?
OK...I know it is off topic... sorry...

Because most of us have working eyes......
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 06:59 AM
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geesch! guess you shoulda just bought a Pinto!! My T-Top II, was an awesome little car. plenty of power and torque, too. ya know the 302 was available then. Up until last year when I finally let her go (to a collector) was a show stopper and grew crowds of nay sayer's to rethink there bias positions. Even MustangEnthusiast Mag ran a small story on her.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tom281
Because most of us have working eyes......
Toms Car:


Cobra II


I think most of us would consider a "dream car" something we haven't owned, although I do dream about some of the things I have done in my old II's. I personally would love to have a '70 Boss 302. My last '76 Cobra II was sold to a guy in Alabama who is painting it the more rare darker blue with white stripes. Wish I had that picture right now.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Hey, I want a bra like that! I need one everytime I'm gonna be back in ARIZONA!!!!!!

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Looks like they're testing the cooling of the next nose/engine package on a current body.
Hey I need a bra like like everytime I'm gonna be in Ar
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ttbit
Toms Car:


Cobra II


I think most of us would consider a "dream car" something we haven't owned, although I do dream about some of the things I have done in my old II's. I personally would love to have a '70 Boss 302. My last '76 Cobra II was sold to a guy in Alabama who is painting it the more rare darker blue with white stripes. Wish I had that picture right now.

Hahaha, are you trying to say that the S197s resemble the II's?? OK, let's start a poll on that one and see everyone's opinion. I dig it that you like the II's, don't get me wrong- that's your peragotive and that's fine with me bro. BUT, I won't agree that they look like the new cars- that's just crazy man.

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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Ok, I'll vote. Yes the S197 looks like a Cobra II
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