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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kylerohde
Yeah, Roush/Saleen/SMS have to hate this - the factory versions are getting so good and so powerful, that there's not much those aftermarket guys can do anymore, IMO.

One thing I haven't seen yet is any power increase on the V6 - with that incredible 350 HP figure getting announced by Hyundai for the new Genesis coupe, Ford and GM have some catching up to do, but maybe Ford's going to wait for the 2015 to debut a better V6 and maybe an EcoBoost 4 too?
I don't see any reason to increase the V6 power. It is 300+ that gets a claimed 30+mpg. If someone wants more power, they will step up to a gt.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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2 questions...
1. if the shelby is not made by shelby anymore, then why are they still putting his name on it?? seems they just want to charge and extra $10k for his name...(unless i read the article wrong)
2. would anyone like to buy a slightly used (8,500 miles) 2006 GT redfire, 5sp, garage kept??
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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There's still a lot to see regarding the 2013 that hasn't come out yet.

-Look of sequentials on the new tails
-Reverse lamps
-Detail of headlamps on/off
-Premium gauges with MyColor
-Pony projection side mirror lamps
-Gotta Have It Green
-Cloth/leather Recaros for V6/GT
-Brembo GT wheels (if they've changed)
-GT/CS interior and other tweaks

Floor pics from LA should answer more questions in the next few days.

In other news, the ZL1 Camaro will cost $54,995. It's time to hear what the GT500 will cost. I'm guessing right now it'll be close to $55k, with both the PP and TP options putting it around $59-60k.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Overboost, any word if the regular boss is carrying over the same wheels from last year? The fact that the stripes are now flat/reflective the gloss wheels may look way out of place.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Anyone notice the Nav appears to have gotten an update??

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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
There's still a lot to see regarding the 2013 that hasn't come out yet.

-Look of sequentials on the new tails
-Reverse lamps
-Detail of headlamps on/off
-Premium gauges with MyColor
-Pony projection side mirror lamps
-Gotta Have It Green
-Cloth/leather Recaros for V6/GT
-Brembo GT wheels (if they've changed)
-GT/CS interior and other tweaks

Floor pics from LA should answer more questions in the next few days.

In other news, the ZL1 Camaro will cost $54,995. It's time to hear what the GT500 will cost. I'm guessing right now it'll be close to $55k, with both the PP and TP options putting it around $59-60k.
If Ford really wants to kill the ZL1 it should be at $54,995 with the PP option since the Camaro has the magnetic suspension standard.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SINBUSTER007
2 questions...
1. if the shelby is not made by shelby anymore, then why are they still putting his name on it?? seems they just want to charge and extra $10k for his name...(unless i read the article wrong)
2. would anyone like to buy a slightly used (8,500 miles) 2006 GT redfire, 5sp, garage kept??
+1 to that. Make it an SVT Cobra again, Shelby on there is nothing but an effort to get sales off the name.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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Come on guys, Carrol gets out there and takes pictures with them every year. He's involved!
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by askjeffro
Come on guys, Carrol gets out there and takes pictures with them every year. He's involved!

marketing BS. thats all. we have known for couple years now that the gt500's are made by SVT. and if you dont think so, look at the engine one time and see what the engine plate says....made by SVT for Ford.
doesnt say the "s" word...

he had his time....lets pass it on. make real cars. not some fancy slap on decals and call it a winner.
(can you tell im not a shelby fan?)
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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Are we really arguing the Shelby name debacle here again.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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I'm not arguing, I was making a joke!
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SINBUSTER007
2 questions...
1. if the shelby is not made by shelby anymore, then why are they still putting his name on it?? seems they just want to charge and extra $10k for his name...(unless i read the article wrong)
All 2005+ S197 Mustangs including the standard GT500's have been/will be produced in the Flat Rock plant in Michigan.

Only certain tuner versions like the GT500KR, the Super Snake and the GT350 receive some final assembly at Shelby American, but even all those cars are based on more or less finished cars from Michigan, just like Saleen, Roush, Steeda or SMS cars.

In my opinion Shelby is just another tuner, like the other ones I mentioned. Using the name Shelby for a factory Ford SVT product is just a marketing thing I guess, meant to enhance the retro theme. What it should be called is an SVT Cobra, just like the previous generation.

EDIT: Apparently discussed to death already

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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by White5ohh
The gt looks like crap. Looks like a 2012 with a cheap ricer body kit
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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HP

You can get a mustang with 305/420/444/550 horsepower. Seems like a good spread to me. When are the order forms coming out? Is there a CS? Ford is not cutting down on the options list for sure.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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I posted this in the Shelby forum, but I guess it applies here too. It is pretty interesting.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/dr...d-shelby-gt500
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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Im completely blown away with Fords effort...especially with the GT500.
I will definately be getting the 13' Gt500.
Has anyone noticed the top of the new TVS blower is stamped with
SVT....cant tell if it says ford racing also.
Awesome job Ford!
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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This is a bit morbid, but I'm calling this now...Carroll passes away next year, last year of Shelby Mustangs, Ford offers tribute to honor him with 700hp, 2015 debuts, 2016 return of SVT Cobra.....
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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OH.
MY.
GOD.

I LOVE THEM ALL!!!! So so happy to see that the black trim that really turned me off about my last Mustang is GONE! What an overall difference a bunch of small changes can make. I used to be one of the few that wasn't overly enamored with the Boss...mind changed!!!

I don't have my 5.0 anymore, but I think I might be dumping one of my other cars to get a 2013. Wow!
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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I like the updated styling on the both the GT and V6 front fascia along with the complimenting updated hood which are all reminiscent of the Shelby.

The rear end and tail lights are worthy now with the few simple tweaks they have made.

SelectShift Automatic should make slushbox drivers happy too.

Nice upgrade on components all around as well adopting stiffening, power and stopping improvements.

The result of all of this is that listens

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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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Any new colors? Was hoping for comp orange and white stripes on a GT500
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