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Old 8/25/10, 12:11 PM
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One rumor is that BMW will bring out a turbo M3, being a V8 or a Inline 6. They already have a 555 hp in a Suv. So BMW has alot of things they can do to play the race game. However if they do this, the M3 will shoot up to 85k. Thats alot of money for a street car. Ronn
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The next M3 will be a TT inline 6 motor. The M5/M6 are going back to the TT V8 that is already in use in the X6, just with a power bump. The German manufacturers core strategy now is to move to a lighter motor and more forced induction to keep the weight down but produce large power numbers.
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I agree, blown engines just don't have the same attitude or response as all natural engines do.
Is this like an all organic engine? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by todd03blown
Is this like an all organic engine? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
Grass fed. No antibiotics.
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Grass fed. No antibiotics.
Massaged like Wagyu beef cattle?
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Massaged like Wagyu beef cattle?
With small hands, no tickling or anything. Super tender.
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this is it...the mustang pretty much puts itself over the top of the camaro when it comes to my future car buying choice...a little ashamed to admit it since my sn is chevydude at camaro5 lol but hey i want the best...
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Originally Posted by Automagically
With small hands, no tickling or anything. Super tender.
LMFAO!!!
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Originally Posted by Ronn
One rumor is that BMW will bring out a turbo M3, being a V8 or a Inline 6. They already have a 555 hp in a Suv. So BMW has alot of things they can do to play the race game. However if they do this, the M3 will shoot up to 85k. Thats alot of money for a street car. Ronn

It's gonna be a six with TT from my understanding.
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Originally Posted by slystallion26
this is it...the mustang pretty much puts itself over the top of the camaro when it comes to my future car buying choice...a little ashamed to admit it since my sn is chevydude at camaro5 lol but hey i want the best...
Welcome to the dark side my friend. LOL!!! That said, I hope you get a nice 5.0 or if you can, get the BOSS!!!!
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Originally Posted by Automagically
I apporove of this statement as well. I agree, blown engines just don't have the same attitude or response as all natural engines do. I like the turbos on my 335i but only because they are timed so well that lag is very dimished and response is quick. Otherwise I just like it natural.

Though price point to price point the GT500 is the better pick. Performance to Performance the BOSS or even the GT is more the dead heat.

One thing I am tired of reading about (not in this post) is the talk of how the two cars are in different leagues and that the two are not comparable. Well, it looks like in this scenario, they both sport a sporting but natural (non-sports car) body and chassis, 2 doors with a back seat, normal seating position as opposed to low slung or flat (i.e. Corvette, Lamborghini) 6 speed manual transmission, RWD, vented performance oriented brakes, performance oriented tires (size and style), are built for twisting roads (believe it or not Mustang fans). Seems to me like the two cars are nearly as even as it gets. No less even then testing it with an S5. Same scenario there. So what, put better door panels on it, cover the dash in leather, lower it and call it a Lincoln if people are so hard up about how un equal the cars are. I think the truly understanding see it as a battle of an up and comming American star vs. the consitant German power house that serves as a reference to most others. Yep, driving the Mustang will provide for a bit of untamed character, but we are Americans, not once has tamed been a part of our motorsporting history. Hell, we have a race series based on souped up bootleggers hot rods. So yeah, we like to kick out the *** end every once in a while, only to know that it's our heavy foot doing all the work.

Anyway, so I suppose I just blabbed about some usless crap huh. Anyway, I don't shame M/T for bringing this article to fruition either, I think it's great. I think they should throw in an S5, V8 Vatnage, XJ, whatever blows your skirt up so that when I get in my $36,000 Mustang I know that it's making a mockery of cars in the $100K price range.

Don't get me wrong, the Mustang still has a lot to go if they want to match much of the craftsmanship of the BMW. But think, once Ford produces an M3 killer that is built like an M3, it's going to cost as much as an M3. It's simple math. I'd rather have the Mustang the attainable performance value.

Couldn't agree with you more..
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Originally Posted by 28.
It's gonna be a six with TT from my understanding.
I haven't done my homework on the new M series' yet other than small tid bits and a bit more about the new 1 series M (NOT M1). What I do know is that the 335i is going to two iterations. The i with a single turbo new engine, and the is with a TT updated old 335 engine. For some crazy reason I think this is a good idea. I like single turbo inline engines. But for response I like the tiny twin turbos. Just an interesting side note.

Originally Posted by 28.



Couldn't agree with you more..
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