2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Sep 27, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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I wonder why cover them at all? They are unchanged, no?
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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pretty much...its seems they are a little smaller because of the hip but not by much.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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I can't wait to see a GT500 in grabber blue.
check the gt500 thread, new member just posted one with red stripes
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FLAstangx3
Longer roof line?? Looks like the trunk lid is shorter. BUT, see they still have that **** turtle on the trunk lid again!!
The greenhouse is unchanged, and is also the same length. The reason for the decklid looking shorter, is the designers sloped the rear angles forward. Thus giving the appearance of a shorter trunk.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Eights
All I can say is: Hold on to your 2005 through 2009 S197 Mustangs! They'll be classics, and their value will jump hugely once the 2010s start showing up in the dealerships and on the streets. You may even see dealer price gouging on the 2009s once people have the opportunity to see the 2010s in the sheetmetal.

The 2010s do offer an arguably nicer interior, it seems, but they they undid a lot of the improvement by converting the two center A/C vents to ho-hum rectangular vents--holdovers from the 8-track days, no doubt...

The 2010s also offer a nice rear fender kick-up, which the S197s should have had from Day One.

After that, the re-styling goes downhill...
And the 2014 model year is a long, long way from 9/18/08.........(Sigh)

Same V8. Same brakes. Same suspension...Are we excited yet?

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I'm sure that 20-30 years from now, the current 2005-2009 S-197 Stangs will be worth serious $$$ and become classics. But until then, the S-197 remains in production with the 2010 refresh, and will remain so, until at least 2013/14.

IMHO. I think you're prediction concerning the value of the current S-197 jumping, is a bit premature as Ford must offer considerable discounts. Just in order to make room for the upcoming 2010 models.


That being said, now is the time to actually buy a 2005-2009 S-197 Mustang. As they must be moved off dealer lots, before the arrival of the new 2010 models !
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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collectability is relative! no one knew that 40 years ago the car they had as a kid was going to pull six figures in the future. now everyone thinks this way and more poeple bubble wrap **** so often that the rarity of an item is deminished. sure there will be exceptions but my argument is still that i can find a 65 coupe for less than $3,000.

like baseball cards, sure that babe ruth and hank arron cards are worth some money BECAUSE they are rare. now how many barry bonds rookie cards are in circulation?????? the king of the road in 40 years may pull some dough and perhaps some of the gt500's but a gt will be far from rare. just my .02

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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Another good point indeed, James
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
I'm sure that 20-30 years from now, the current 2005-2009 S-197 Stangs will be worth serious $$$ and become classics. But until then, the S-197 remains in production with the 2010 refresh, and will remain so, until at least 2013/14.

IMHO. I think you're prediction concerning the value of the current S-197 jumping, is a bit premature as Ford must offer considerable discounts. Just in order to make room for the upcoming 2010 models.


That being said, now is the time to actually buy a 2005-2009 S-197 Mustang. As they must be moved off dealer lots, before the arrival of the new 2010 models !
I am not sure about that. The "classic" Mustangs get serious money because of their relative rarity. In the 60's, you could get numerous engine, trans, color, etc options. Today, you don't have the option to build a unique car. If you watch Barret Jackson, the 1 of XXX cars will fetch the high dollars. I cannot see a car like mine fetching high dollars in the future.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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I am not sure about that. The "classic" Mustangs get serious money because of their relative rarity. In the 60's, you could get numerous engine, trans, color, etc options. Today, you don't have the option to build a unique car. If you watch Barret Jackson, the 1 of XXX cars will fetch the high dollars. I cannot see a car like mine fetching high dollars in the future.
In 20-30 from now, I seriously doubt that the internal combustion engine will still be with us. So by then, I'm quite certain our cars will fetch some serious $$$ to both history buffs, and collectors searching for antique vehicles to place in automotive museums. Just a thought
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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everyone in the 60' thought we would be in flying cars..lol..

and the internal combustion concept would play except for the fact 99.9% of the cars on the road now fall into that category.

i am curious to see if svt ever makes another cobra r, the kr may be considered by some i guess but the production numbers were not 300.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:11 AM
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lol if gas prices are at 40$ a gallon in 2035 only the richest of the richest would even be able to afford driving one
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
In 20-30 from now, I seriously doubt that the internal combustion engine will still be with us. So by then, I'm quite certain our cars will fetch some serious $$$ to both history buffs, and collectors searching for antique vehicles to place in automotive museums. Just a thought
They said the same thing 35 years ago...
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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First of all, let me also express my thanks and appreciation to the alert and diligent Cochese, without whom we would not be this far along on the specifics of the 2010 Mustang!

I agree with everyone else--the rear-fender kick-up looks much more akin to the rear-fender kick-up of the '69 & '70 Mustangs than it has in any previous spyshots! And that's a GOOD thing!

Nevertheless...(Boos and hisses arise from the crowd)...the rear-fender kick-up was the only ace in the hand. The fabulous early Mustang grille (Another ace) got played in 2005. The G.T. 350 roofline with quarter windows (Yet another ace) got played in 2005. The 300 HP all-aluminum SOHC variable-intake-timing three-valve 4.6 (Still another ace) got played in 2005. The 5-speed manuals and 5-speed automatics (A face card--not an ace--the Tremec 6060 6-speed manual in the GT500 is an ace) got played in 2005. The S197 bridge-girder body-frame rigidity (Dear God, another ace!) got played in 2005. And the legendary retro-slick interior (How many effin' aces are in this deck???) got played in 2005. It woulda been the greatest hand in poker history if that rear-fender kick-up had been played in 2005, too!!!

Soooooooooo, all that's left is the Hurricane/Boss/EcoBoost/Coyote/Whatever GDI 5.0 quadcam V8 (the Imperial Ace) yet to be played, six individual taillights (a one-eyed jack, not an ace) yet to be played, and--arguably--IRS (A ten of diamonds--IRS using a Ford 9" centersection would be a ten in the same suit as the aces and face cards) yet to be played. These high cards--the Imperial Ace, a one-eyed jack, and a ten of diamonds, didn't get played in the hand dealt for model year 2010...

When automotive historians look back on all this, they're gonna recognize that something happened in late 2004 that had not happened in the US auto industry since April 17th, 1964--and that was the phenomenal S197 2005 Mustang, the car that saved affordable performance from extinction for every man, woman, and child in North America. Ford had made the Mustang young again. Kenny Rogers found that ace that he could keep.
Amen.

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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sgt d
collectability is relative! no one knew that 40 years ago the car they had as a kid was going to pull six figures in the future. now everyone thinks this way and more poeple bubble wrap **** so often that the rarity of an item is deminished. sure there will be exceptions but my argument is still that i can find a 65 coupe for less than $3,000.

like baseball cards, sure that babe ruth and hank arron cards are worth some money BECAUSE they are rare. now how many barry bonds rookie cards are in circulation?????? the king of the road in 40 years may pull some dough and perhaps some of the gt500's but a gt will be far from rare. just my .02
I couldn't agree with you more. People forget that the Mustangs worth big money are the Boss, Mach1, Shelby, big block cars and other SEs I left out. A 6 cylinder 65-73 coupe won't net you big money and thats what Ford made the most of.

As far as the new cars being "bubble wrapped" this only decreases the value. I have been considering the purchase of a 07-09 GT500 and have been checking the prices of all the s197 Mustangs. What I learned is that there is a huge supply and little demand for low mile 05-08 GTs selling at bargain basement prices. Though I want a GT500, a loaded silver 06' GT with 8k on it for $18,000 sounds like the bargain of the century lol.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Got my silver '06 GT with everything but auto, 3k on the clock, for $21k last Feb. Tough to think of letting it go for a new one...
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoomie
Got my silver '06 GT with everything but auto, 3k on the clock, for $21k last Feb. Tough to think of letting it go for a new one...

haha im doing the same thing...ive had my stang less than a year and already im making a list of the options that will be on my next one...
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Great pictures, matey.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet dreams tonight

Lovin' those hips
I am starting to love it more and more.
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoomie
They said the same thing 35 years ago...
FYI the difference between now, and 35 years ago. Gas prices weren't nearly close to $4 gal. at the pump, nor were their federal C.A.F.E regulations, that require all vehicles must reach 30 M.P.G within the next 11 years.


In addition, we also didn't have technology, such as fuel cell, hydrogen, and biofuels either.

And most of all, fossil/carbon fuels weren't nearly a threat to the environment 35 years ago, like they are today. Such as the ozone layer, and global warming.

That being said, whether you choose to accept it, or not. The days of the internal combustion engine, are gradually drawing to a close. As the environment demands for more renewable sources of energy !

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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
FYI the difference between now, and 35 years ago. Gas prices weren't nearly close to $4 gal. at the pump, nor were their federal C.A.F.E regulations, that require all vehicles must reach 30 M.P.G within the next 11 years.


In addition, we also didn't have technology, such as fuel cell, hydrogen, and biofuels either.

And most of all, fossil/carbon fuels weren't nearly a threat to the environment 35 years ago, like they are today. Such as the ozone layer, and global warming.

That being said, whether you choose to accept it, or not. The days of the internal combustion engine, are gradually drawing to a close. As the environment demands for more renewable sources of energy !
35 years ago would put us at 1973. Wasn't that the dawn of our last "energy crisis?"
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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35 years ago would put us at 1973. Wasn't that the dawn of our last "energy crisis?"
Yep, it was know as the "Arab Oil Embargo Crisis". However it only lasted from 1973-74, so luckily it didn't last very long. But as federal E.P.A regulations demanded stricter emission standards, along with the dawn of unleaded gasoline. This also gradually drove the price of gasoline up, as a direct result. Thus eventually ending the good ole days of cheap fuel prices for good !

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