There's so much real info on this site and many others, whether people choose to believe it or not (and misinformation as well)

It'll be fun to see reactions in the next 2 years

 

My opinion is bring on the new Mustang. I don't see why people worry if they won't like it. If you have an 05' and dislike the new one, keep your 05! I personally just want to see something new. I wish car makers would update their models more often to keep the cars fresh. More models make the older ones more unique over time to me the less unique Mustangs of all time were the 87-93 cars because the production run was so long. I hope Ford gets into a mindset of a new model every 3 to 4 years or so.

 

Right on!

 

Yeah, like the all-aluminum 400hp DOHC 6-speed Bullitt. I wonder where that car is now?...........................

 

That was BON that reported that....
And yes that was a bum report.

It may have been real at one point though...but we all know what happened to it.

 

Some people just liked having the new kid on the block that everyone loved.
They fear of losing that when the 2010 comes out, and some even moreso when it has a bigger and bader powertrain.
It happened when the 05 came out, it'll happen when the 2010 comes out...and it'll continue to happen when the 20whatever...comes out.

 

The cost of gasoline had nothing to do with the drop in HP & big block engines in 1972. In 1972 gas was under 40 cents / gal across the country and as low as 32 cents in TX, OK, etc.

What drove the drop in HP in 1972 was the requirement for unleaded gas, which caused compresion ratios to be lowered as only regular octane unleaded was available.

Part of the drop in HP was the change to SAE net HP ratings from the old gross HP ratings which usually consisted of the marketing department of the manufacturer picking out a # that sounded good.

429 & 460 big blocks were still available on the Torino, LTD & T-Bird in 1972.

 

+1

The 1979 Stang was in a new world compared to the 73 - 78 Mustang IIs

The 1994 Stang was far better than the old Fox Stangs.

The 1999 was better than the 94 - 98s.

The 2005 was incredibly improved over the 99 - 04s.

The 2010 WILL be much better than the 05 - 09s.

I don't understand what all the paranoia is about. Maybe some people who bought 05 - 08 Stangs want to make themselves feel better by convincing themselves their car is better than the new ones.

 

The main reason behind Ford not wanting to bring it out too soon. Is that it will hurt current 08/09 sales. Although were all really anxious to see what the 2010 looks like. We've waited this long, and have just 1 year left to go.

The last thing we need, is provide GM with an opportunity to make any last minute changes to their upcoming 2010 Camaro, as a direct result from Ford launching the 2010 Mustang too soon.

 

I totally agree with you. Many people in this thread make statements like the current gen is perfect or can't be improved upon. These are people convincing themselves that their car is the best of the breed. Though I do love the current Mustang's styling it is getting a little long in the tooth and I would like to see something new. I have a feeling that it is going to be bashed by many owners of the current gen even after it is released. I know of many 4th gen buyers who claimed the 05' car was "too retro" because like you said it made them feel better about their cars. Either way i'm looking to buy a used GT500 in 2 or 3 yrs so i'm out of the market for a new Mustang purchase for a while...........

 

Can you find out how many miles, your friends older brother had on his 93 Cobra, and what color ?

IMO it really depends on how low the mileage is, and the color. If for example his Cobra had far less than 31,283 miles, and is either Red, or Teal Green. It's going to be worth more than my Black one was at $12,500

 

It was fully loaded CD, leather, sunroof with teal paint and had about 30,000ish miles. The car was bone stock, has the original window sticker, SVT certificates and all other paperwork you would want.

Don't get me wrong I feel that it is an inferior car to the 96-04 Cobras but it is so cool having only one of the less than 5000 fox body Cobras made. The other generations of cobras had a wider production range... I have a feeling that this car is an investment and would love to purchase this car is given the opportunity.

 

The larger reason for the drop in HP was that little event called "The Oil Crisis/Embargo/Shortage" of 1973. Your points are valid but not the over riding factor in the chain of events that followed. And gas did go up sharply after that to "justify" this shortage ( or moreover,greed). How else would one explain models like the Mustang II that prompted GM and Chrysler to do the same with many of their models boasting "improved fuel economy?" Why was fuel economy so important now, when it never mattered much before? This was a sign of things to come which is evident now that peak oil production has been reached (or so they say). And sadly, the current price of gas will be viewed as a bargain in a short period of time. Performance cars will be frowned upon and their demand will drop, not to mention the squeeze CAFE is putting on the car manufacturers. I fear that these good old days of many models of Mustangs will soon end..........But at least we can buy them for the time being.

 

Although my 93 Cobra was mildly modified. It also included all the original stock parts, along with factory CD, original window sticker, and SVT certificate. However mine was black with cloth interior, and didn't come with a sunroof.

Being that your friend's older brother, had a Teal Green Cobra. His is worth more because of the fact, their were only 1355 Teal units, compared to the 1784 Red ones, followed by the 1854 Black Cobras. In fact I'm quite certain that leather equipped cars, are also worth more than those with cloth interiors. In addition: those with factory sunroofs, were also very rare as well.

 

I'm sorry, but i feel you could have gotten much more for your 93'. I do understand that the color and options may bring up the price a little but not by that much. It seems in recent years that fox body cars are in very high demand. Around here a low mile 87-93 5.0 is selling for more than a 94-98 car! I don't understand why but it just is.........I guess they are becoming classics (20 years old since the 87 refresh) I would have given you $12,000 all day long for that car without even looking at it.....i'm bummed out that I didn't know you sooner!

 

Soooooo back to the 010

 

Sorry but your version of history is completely wrong.

The OPEC Oil Embargo had NOTHING to do with the drop in HP for 1973 car models. Unfortunately this has now become "historical fact" when in reality it is COMPLETELY FALSE.

The OPEC oil embargo did not start until October 17, 1973. This was AFTER the 1974 models were already on sale. This meand 1973 car models were designed, manufactured and sold BEFORE the 1973 OPEC oil Embargo.

On top of that that car designs are locked in about 1 year before they go into production. So 1973 model year vehicles had their designs completed during the summer of 1971, over 2 years before the OPEC oil Embargo.

So for your version of history to be correct, Ford, GM and Chrysler would have had to known that the OPEC oil Embargo was coming over 2 years before it happened.

 

That makes 2 of us. For I have no doubt, you would've taken very excellent care of that car. Because of the fact, you sincerely appreciate the value these cars bring.

I just hope that the current owner, also realizes this as well.

 

Boomer: I don't know about those who fear "unplanned obsolescence" of their current rides, but my fear is that they will screw up the appearance--the 2005 is so right that improving upon it is gonna be effin' hard to do! The last time a Mustang looked as good as the 2005 model year and later was the 1970 model year! I don't havta tell ya how loooooonnng ago that's been! And even the '70 model year with its nasty fake scoops replacing the outer pair of headlights was a let down from the '69s (although, to be totally fair, the '70 model year did do away with the fake rear fender scoops of the '69s--a needed improvement). All that's really needed is a '65ish rear fender kick-up, a '65ish full "C" scoop on each side instead of the "oblique L" on each side of the S197, trash that tacky faux gas cap in the center of the rear, replace the drab slab taillights of the S197s with six individual taillights from the '67s, and put that stalky radio antenna into the windshield glass or other glass on some other part of the vehicle. Better instruments would be appreciated, too, and darker window tint all around whle you're at it. Then leave well enough alone--PLEASE!!!

 

If you read the book (which I'm still reading by the way) Mustang 2005: A New Breed of Pony Car

It mentions how the 2005 mustang got them BACK ON TRACK with the look.
It seems that Ford gets that the 2005 was back to its roots on the look of the mustang, and they can now move forward with retaining its heritage cues a little bit closer to what they had before.

I don't have a fear in that respect, at all.
You can tell from the spy shots the overall shape/stance is the same.

I don't think they'll 'screw it up' however... maybe not everyone will like every single little styling cue... but such is life.