You need camber adjusters if you lower your car
#142
Spent about 5 hours reading every mustang post on web that talked about lowering the stang. Got some great info. First, most folks are going with either the Steeda or Eibach springs. Some swear by each...all have their own story to tell. Eibach seems to be the majority rule. They come in Pro or Sport. The pro lowers the back about 1.2 to 1.4. The front about 1.0 to 1.2 The sport lowers both front and rear about .5 more than the pro. About 50% of those that lowered their car with either spring/either distance, needed to adjust the front camber. Little to no camber adjustment capability on the stock system...so, you need a camber kit. Steeda sales a camber plate for around 180. Sure makes the price go up, but right camber for 180 is better than new front tires every 6 months. HOWEVER, I called Eibach and they told me about a new product just out for the 05/06 stang. A company called SPC makes a camber bolt for $30 that can be installed in 5 minutes by taking off the wheel. It will adjust up to 1.75 camber...way more than the lowering kits are thowing things off. http://www.specprod.com/ I called the company and they told me about their web site...very cool. Go to the top of their page and select apps/products, then applications on the next page, then enter in Ford, Mustang, 2005. The EZ CAM XR part number 81260 will pop up. They even have a great "how to" section that shows exactly how to use the bolts. If you have already installed your front springs, these bolts do not require pulling them out like the plates do. Anyway, very cool, very cheap. No notching (as described by the Ford Service manual).
As for the rear, there is a bar called the panhard rod that adjust the axel left and right of center. Because it works on a fulcrum (angular adjustment), and because one end is mounted to the chasis, when you lower the rear, the axel shifts to the left 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch. I checked my stock centering (drop a line from the rear fender down and measure distance to tire) and found that the axel already sits about 1/4 inch left. Now that I know that fact, I can actually see the differance when standing behind the car. So, you may want to buy an adjustable panhard rod. (BMR makes the Best) for about 120. That will ensure a centered axel...especially needed if you go with wider tires.
So, sure did learn alot. I am going with the Eibach Pro Series off of Ebay, Camber bolts from SPC, and panhard rod from BMR. Total price, 380 not including the front end alighnment which WILL be needed. As for having someone install it...do not bother. This is a VERY easy mod that anyone with half a brain can do in their driveway. Rear springs, zero difficulty. Front, little more work, but totally doable. Several awsesome sites with instructions and testimonials.
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
As for the rear, there is a bar called the panhard rod that adjust the axel left and right of center. Because it works on a fulcrum (angular adjustment), and because one end is mounted to the chasis, when you lower the rear, the axel shifts to the left 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch. I checked my stock centering (drop a line from the rear fender down and measure distance to tire) and found that the axel already sits about 1/4 inch left. Now that I know that fact, I can actually see the differance when standing behind the car. So, you may want to buy an adjustable panhard rod. (BMR makes the Best) for about 120. That will ensure a centered axel...especially needed if you go with wider tires.
So, sure did learn alot. I am going with the Eibach Pro Series off of Ebay, Camber bolts from SPC, and panhard rod from BMR. Total price, 380 not including the front end alighnment which WILL be needed. As for having someone install it...do not bother. This is a VERY easy mod that anyone with half a brain can do in their driveway. Rear springs, zero difficulty. Front, little more work, but totally doable. Several awsesome sites with instructions and testimonials.
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
#143
Thanks for the summary! It would have saved me the MANY hours I too spent reading every post on every Mustang site on the web. :bang:
I'm leaning towards the Steeda springs, but will also get these camber bolts. I have a feeling some alignment shops say it is OK because they the stock settings are maxed out, when the reality is that the settings could probably use a little more tweaking that the camber kits allow.
I'm leaning towards the Steeda springs, but will also get these camber bolts. I have a feeling some alignment shops say it is OK because they the stock settings are maxed out, when the reality is that the settings could probably use a little more tweaking that the camber kits allow.
#144
Originally posted by bullittman@March 30, 2005, 10:23 AM
GOOD thread......I just finished putting the pro-kit on. When I tightened up the strut bolts I held the strut against the outside of the bolt holes and that left the negative camber at an "Acceptable" to me 1-1/2 degree. I do have the steeda plates for future use. My rear is not off by any appreciable amount so at this point no adjustable bar there.
GOOD thread......I just finished putting the pro-kit on. When I tightened up the strut bolts I held the strut against the outside of the bolt holes and that left the negative camber at an "Acceptable" to me 1-1/2 degree. I do have the steeda plates for future use. My rear is not off by any appreciable amount so at this point no adjustable bar there.
#146
Originally posted by Torkfastback@October 25, 2005, 9:20 PM
HOWEVER, I called Eibach and they told me about a new product just out for the 05/06 stang. A company called SPC makes a camber bolt for $30 that can be installed in 5 minutes by taking off the wheel. It will adjust up to 1.75 camber...way more than the lowering kits are thowing things off.
HOWEVER, I called Eibach and they told me about a new product just out for the 05/06 stang. A company called SPC makes a camber bolt for $30 that can be installed in 5 minutes by taking off the wheel. It will adjust up to 1.75 camber...way more than the lowering kits are thowing things off.
Just call 1-800-525-6505 and give them your ZIP or Province and they'll tell you where you can buy them!
Mine came to $39.08 CDN after taxes...
#148
Originally posted by Redfire 05Gt@November 22, 2005, 7:34 PM
I just picked up a set of these bolts...ingenious! Although I don't think #81260 is a new part for SPC as the applications on the box lists "Chevrolet, Chrysler, Daewoo, Dodge, Hyundai, Infinity, Miutsubishi, Nissan, Saturn, Subaru, Toyota, Volvo" and other vehicles with 14mm strut bolts. I think it just took someone a while to add 05/06 Mustang to the list or for the word to get out.
Just call 1-800-525-6505 and give them your ZIP or Province and they'll tell you where you can buy them!
Mine came to $39.08 CDN after taxes...
I just picked up a set of these bolts...ingenious! Although I don't think #81260 is a new part for SPC as the applications on the box lists "Chevrolet, Chrysler, Daewoo, Dodge, Hyundai, Infinity, Miutsubishi, Nissan, Saturn, Subaru, Toyota, Volvo" and other vehicles with 14mm strut bolts. I think it just took someone a while to add 05/06 Mustang to the list or for the word to get out.
Just call 1-800-525-6505 and give them your ZIP or Province and they'll tell you where you can buy them!
Mine came to $39.08 CDN after taxes...
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