Altoid:
What the usual loss percentages on a Mustang Dyno...?
It's more than 15%

Anyone have a stock mustang dyno number/chart?

If your going by the 15% loss, then the 254.4 would be 292.56...but its a mustang dyno.

If it is 28% loss on a mustang dyno:
235 would equal 300hp @ the crank
254.4 would equal 325.6hp @ the crank

Sounds about right...

 

From what I understand the Mustang Dyno will show a difference of approximately 12% to 15% less than a DynoJet. That would put it in the ballpark.

Edit: Oops! Needed to read the post above... :bang:

 

Thanks for clearing it up Boomer, and NBK. So that’s around 25hp without a tune. That is pretty amazing. Any info on any tunes out there? Or is that being looked into?

I'm in California; will I run into any problems with this intake? I've never done anything liked this before.

Also, do we know if there is any MPG gain yet?

This maybe the intake for me, I'm a maybe at this point!

 

No problem Altoid..I just wasn't sure myself on the percentages that Mustang Dyno's were...I just took a guess (doing the math on their numbers)

I know with my MRT intake I got a nice throttle response increase and with even 10RWHP increase in the midranges its a nice feeling

 

Mike, thanks for the info, Kirk made a lot of sense too. I've got 2 last questions. Kirk mentioned 'fresh air' - what is it about fresh air that makes more hp? Is it just the temp and volume, or is it something more? Lastly, I looked but couldn't find a pic of this intake, filter, and rad shield all put together. Does such a pic exist? I'm real close to jumpin' on this wagon, so thanks!

 

GROUP BUY INFO FROM WMS:

From: "Shannon Wall" <fastford@wmsracing.com> View Contact Details
Subject: Re: WMS-HVI05M with Ram Air [GROUP BUY LOGISTICS]
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:59:14 -0600
To: "Mike" <vent_enter_search@yahoo.com>


Hey Mike,

good to hear on the group buy. We will bill and ship individually, no
problem there. If there were a few members in the same area they may
consider shipping them all to one place as this would save shipping,
especially on kits with the ram air box. We will have to set a
deadline for the group buy, sometime after we have the new pictures and
info on the site I would think.

From there I will just need a list of the members on the group buy and
they can all place the orders themselves.

Shannon

Western Motorsports Inc
www.wmsracing.com


OK, we just need 2 more people to reach 20% off. Remember, you don't have to get the intake w/ram, buying the intake alone [28RWHP] counts towards the group buy.

EDIT: Thanks Bob. From the WMS site:

"Both power and torque and increased all across the rpm range with a peak rwhp gain of 19.4 and peak torque gain of 15.1. We only rev'd the engine to 5900 rpm with the stock computer as power drops off - at 5800 rpm our intake gained 28 rwhp over the stock setup."

Do I hear 9?

 

I think you have 9 here. I've been checking this intake out for a while and I think I'm ready to buy.

I would definately like to get the rad shield as well. Might as well take advantage of 20%!!

 

John, no pics yet of the final assembly. Hopefully WMS will post one by week's end. From on-line about CAI:

"Its a thermal dynamic fact that cooler air is more oxygen dense. Since oxygen is an integral part of the combustion process, the more you bring in the bigger the explosion in your combustion chamber, and the more power you make."
Now combine that with the increased volume of air getting in with this system and that increased volume is colder air... there's your power

To those with more knowledge than me, rookie here, do I have it correct?

 

. . . wasn't it a 28 rwhp increase over stock @ 5800 rpm?

"Both power and torque and increased all across the rpm range with a peak rwhp gain of 19.4 and peak torque gain of 15.1. We only rev'd the engine to 5900 rpm with the stock computer as power drops off - at 5800 rpm our intake gained 28 rwhp over the stock setup."

 

Justin!

OK, just ONE more to reach the 10 or more 20% discount. Who's gonna make everyone's day?

 

You are absolutely correct Bob! My mistake. Correcting my post.

Thanks!

 

No worries . . . . let's hope they're not Lyin'.

 

Maybe you guys should make a list. I'm not sure if I'm included in that 9 but I said based on a satisfactory answer to my questions I maybe in.

 

That's ME

Thanks for the info, I'm going to assume that the filter will assemble snugly directly in front of the rear opening of the rad shield... that seems to be the only thing that'd make sense. Of course I also assume that there'll be a little play to allow for engine movement.

So make me #10 w/ the shield

Thanks again for all the time, effort, and info.

 

:w00t: John!

Altoid: Yeah we'll get a final draft of a list together once WMS posts their final assembly pics and reports on their real world testing 40-100MPH. I think anyone at this point which is still unsure and has questions will then be able to make a comfortable decision.

 

Count me in as very interested then.

 

Let's shoot for another ten buyers and see if we can get 30% off

 

To me, this would mean that an adjustment to the air/fuel mixture via a tuner would be necessary. I don't see how they are getting the gains they claim without the assistance of the aforementioned device.

That being said, I am still interested in either the ram or the non-ram depending on final cost, appearance and specifications.

Good work Mike

 

Thanks Mark. I pulled that info off the web. It wasn't from WMS so I might have pulled it from an intake system which does require a tune, rookie mistake. I was just trying to find info on CAI in general.

 

You know I am always up for tuning new intakes.