I was at the tuner this morning to get the Xcalibrator installed along with the JLT CAI. I decided to go with a custom tune since I have an exhaust mod already and I wanted to see if I could get more out of it. Well the results weren't exactly what I was hoping for. I gained 7.3 HP and 9.5 TQ. This a custom tune and not the one that Jay sells with his intake or the stock SCT tune. I will ordering the tune from Jay next week to see if I can improve on these numbers.

And just a heads up to anybody getting an intake...get a tune. The A/F after the CAI install was 16.5:1.

 

Thank you so much for sharing your results with everyone. I am sure that by now you realize that the JLT cold air kit will NOT deliver over 340 ft/lbs of torque to the rear wheels as has been previously suggested.

I have stayed clear of all discussion about comparisons between what we have to offer and what alternatives people have. Do you feel that you got your $150 worth???

 

Smart Man

 

So Tim - I take it you purchased the JLT seperate and the SCT with a tune not intended for a CAI application and that you are going back now to have the "DPG" tune installed on the SCT? You should see quite an increase over the JLT with SCT with a non CAI tune......please post your results - would like to see the diff.

 

Well, now I know why you cleaned your car yesterday!

Just like taking your dog to the vet.

How was their service? I thought of taking my car to them. Maybe I will now, after you get Jay's tune just to compare.

 

You're putting 281 to the ground, and I believe that's a dynojet. I wouldn't be too upset. I got 255. But I don't want to get wrapped up in the numbers.....

chris

 

My Blue Heaven

Get over it!! You were right. We would not even be on this thread if we were not interested in the numbers.!!! What is sad, is that the folks who make these bolt ons know that too.

I felt the desire when I stopped by the local speed shop, even though my car was too hot, I just had to know!!! Burned a hole in pocket it did. But now this thread is leading me down that path again! LOL Somebody please stop me b4 I dyno again!!!!

Once I have the this...I need the that....when will it end? :bang:

 

heres the numbers i have got from,hi flo cats,flo-master 3 chamber mufflers,c&l cai,steeda charge motion plates,sct tune with 4:10 not sure if the charts gonna turn out in post

 

Don't worry, most of us didn't beleive it either.

 

 

You should re read his post and re read the other JLT customers here.
He DID NOT use MY tune. This was a mistake and his #'show it.

When a new tuner tunes a car with something different he needs to take the time to do it right. This was not tuned right. My tuner spent many days tuning 4 different cars to get it right.

In the other post a JLT customer gained 12.5 and 15 over the MMR CAI. So this car only gaining a total of 8 or so tells me something is totally wrong.


So, if he got the $575 complete package or the $225 JLT/Tune package things would be different. This is why I offer and push the JLT/DTP tune with this kit.

This is a poor thread down playing JLT when the whole kit was not purchaced and all info is not obvious.


Again, these are NOT accurate #'s for a JLT. The JLT tune was not used. This is VERY important!

 

What struck me as strange was the fact that when the twin turbo set up was first being tested and posted here, the RWTQ at 4 psi of boost was arond 358. How in the world did a turd pipe, and "Home Depot engineering" net 342 RWTQ?? :shock:

Well apparently IT DIDN'T!! Now where is the value in a $150 dollar product that doesn't work? If you want a "sewer pipe and a "rubber elbow" bolted on your car go to Home Depot and save yourself $143 dollars.

My C&L kit may have cost a little more, but the value is in the performance, and the fact that it is well made and engineered to last and race.

Don't believe the HYPE!! :notnice:

"Turd Pipe's blow NO AIR"

 

Why all the anger? C'mon now, we are all just looking for true numbers. No need to bash another product like that. Do you feel like a chump because maybe, just maybe, you paid a little too much for an intake? What if he installs the DTP tune and gets the same results the others have gotten? Will you change your tune, or will you still keep on hating?

Yes, I'm very skeptical of the JLT numbers. But if more proof keeps rolling in supporting their claims (if the proper tune is used), I may be converted.

 

jlt+sct custom tune pulled 294/309 was up from 279/304 on sct premium tune w/93 on dyno jet. I'll post dyno tommorow.

 

Wow...A lot of anamosity in this thread. Get 'em VegasJay!!

 

First off, I didn't start this thread to be a slight at JLT or to start a war between CAI manufacturers. I think this board is somwhere we can share information to get each of us the best performing Mustangs possible. Hopefully my results prove helpful to some of you.

Jay is correct in his post. I did NOT use the DTP tune because I was already scheduled for an SCT install/tune at my local shop. I think I made this pretty clear in the first post but I apologize if some of you missed it. I wanted to support my local shop where I get a lot of work done.

The guy who did my tune came highly recommended and is the tuner of choice for the mustang club I am in. He has had previous success with 05s and has gotten much greater gains than I got with just a tune alone. This was not a 20 min job. He spent several hours today working on it and discussing it with other SCT tuners on the phone. The car was run on the same dyno at the same time of day by the same person in the same weather. I tried to eliminate as many variables as possible to show a true and honest gain.

I can conclude either my tuner didn't have enough time to get the gains I was looking for or the JLT/SCT combo just doesn't perform on my car for some other reason. Either way I am disappointed because I am going to have to throw more money at it to find out. I assumed a custom tune for my specific vehicle would do better but maybe I was wrong.

My next step is to order the DTP tune from JLT on Monday. I am in fact willing to drive down to Chesapeake to get it tuned by DTP in person if it will get me the gains I am looking for. If I made a mistake in not getting the DTP tune (i hope this is the case) then the results will soon support that. Whatever happens, I will post updated results when I have them and people can draw their own conclusions.

 

I must be missing something here - because the original poster admitted to not using the proper tune with the JLT....why don't we all wait and see what his outcome is when the set up is right.....no reason to bash the JLT (and yes I did just purchase and install one) but so far there have been very positive results (including my SOP results and soon to be dyno'd)

I'm surprised that the Lee jumped in and started all of this when (once again) the orginal poster said he did not use the correct tune - I wonder how well the other CAI's would do with an incorrect tune - I haven't seen anyone with a JLT bashing CLT - just stating their dyno numbers and the fact that they are pleased with the product.......after all we all want the best bang for the buck and I believe that both Lee and Jay understand that.

Sheesh - seems like there was a "pent up" JLT bash just waiting to happen :notnice:

Off Rant - Tim I do hope that whatever it is gets worked out and that you get the gains you are looking for - please keep us posted.....

 

Hey, no offense Tucker. I'm just trying to make light. I've been reading your previous posts and you really seem to be upstanding. Who knows what'll happen with his new tune. I guess we'll wait and see. I cann speak for myself when I say I'm still interested...But still not sold!

 

No hate here what-so-ever. I do hate to see people lay down hard earned cash, for product's that don't deliver as claimed. With the number's JLT was claiming this was inevitadable. How on earth would any CAI put out numbers like a twin-turbo running 4 pounds of boost?? The Dyno curve's didn't look right either.

I deffinatley don't feel like a "chump" for buying a product that perform's great, and is well made. It was worth every penny I paid, and then some.

If the JLT Intake, gained what they claimed, I still wouldn't buy one. Like I said you could go to the hardware store and buy "Sewer pipe" and do-it-youself, and save some money.

I'm deffinatley not dogg'n anyone for having a JLT intake. I think it stink's to sell an inferior product making ridiculous claim's of Horsepower that it can't produce. I'm just glad the truth is starting to emerge, before more people waste 150 perfectly good dollars that could have went to a Mod that work's.

JLT like's to claim at the bottom of thier SIG "Metal Pipes Blow Hot AIR".

So what's wrong with "Turd Pipes Blow No Air"??

BTW: Tim your 100% right, this forum is about everyone helping eachother get the most power out of thier Pony's! I wish you all the best in getting result's from your Mustang. I just believe JLT pulled some "shady" stuff.

 

The 279 RWHP was a stock GT with SCT tune? Then you added the JLT intake and made 294 RWHP? That would be a 15 RWHP gain correct. That would be a beliveable gain, unlike what JLT addvertised...