GT Performance Mods 2005+ Mustang GT Performance and Technical Information

Pulled trigger on LT's

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 6/7/08, 07:33 PM
  #181  
Legacy TMS Member
 
70MACH1OWNER's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 9, 2005
Location: New Carlisle, Ohio (20 miles north of Dayton)
Posts: 6,982
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by Redrocket06
About the NSR cams..........I have been thinking real hard. The only 2 obsticals are: will they work well with a PD SC, and a long honey do list might be in the works (if you know what I mean). But CNC heads and a hot cam would be sweet!

Good luck on the track, I found that I launch better and much harder with TCS on for some reason. I know the car is faster, but it will only go as fast as the driver can make it.
Wow Dean I am really surprised that the car launches better with the TC on. When I get on it with the TC on and I spin the tires it feel like someone pulled the coils out of the car. Almost completely dies on launch! Puts me on my nose. Is your TC working correctly?

Last edited by 70MACH1OWNER; 6/7/08 at 07:35 PM.
Old 6/7/08, 08:41 PM
  #182  
Mach 1 Member
 
EastCoast07GtCs's Avatar
 
Join Date: November 7, 2007
Location: Brigantine, NJ
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Redrocket06
About the NSR cams..........I have been thinking real hard. The only 2 obsticals are: will they work well with a PD SC, and a long honey do list might be in the works (if you know what I mean). But CNC heads and a hot cam would be sweet!

Good luck on the track, I found that I launch better and much harder with TCS on for some reason. I know the car is faster, but it will only go as fast as the driver can make it.
Thanks bud, will be my first time so I'll be trying not to embarass myself first and foremost, everything else is secondary...
Old 6/8/08, 09:54 AM
  #183  
Bullitt Member
Thread Starter
 
Redrocket06's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 2, 2008
Location: Houston, TX 12.0 @ 118
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 70MACH1OWNER
Wow Dean I am really surprised that the car launches better with the TC on. When I get on it with the TC on and I spin the tires it feel like someone pulled the coils out of the car. Almost completely dies on launch! Puts me on my nose. Is your TC working correctly?
Well if it doesn't work correctly then atleast it seems to be not working in the right way, if you know what I mean. I think it is my driving skills that make me think the car launches better with it on. I did have 1 good launch with it off, but I still got some spin. The VHT they use on the track just makes street tires slick, my best bet would be DR's or slicks to launch well with TC off. Also I spun 2nd everytime and on some I spun 3rd, so my tire are my weak link. BTW I was the fastest S197 (4 or 5 out to play) that night and only 3 camaros (several out) ran faster than my 13.3 but they where spraying .

1st gear seems really really short now, I bounced off my 6800 red line before I knew it was close to 6000 oops!! What is the best rpm to shift at for the 1/4 with CAI/Tune/LT's?
Old 6/8/08, 09:58 AM
  #184  
Bullitt Member
Thread Starter
 
Redrocket06's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 2, 2008
Location: Houston, TX 12.0 @ 118
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by EastCoast07GtCs
Thanks bud, will be my first time so I'll be trying not to embarass myself first and foremost, everything else is secondary...
Don't worry Al, my first time out I ran awsome, but my second time to go I killed it 3X doing a burn out, scratched 2nd 2X's, and scratched 3rd 1X. Then this last time I ran good, so you will have good and bad days, all you have to do is practice. My wife said she never knew I killed it, but she heard me grind gears.
Old 6/9/08, 04:35 AM
  #185  
Mach 1 Member
 
EastCoast07GtCs's Avatar
 
Join Date: November 7, 2007
Location: Brigantine, NJ
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Redrocket06
Don't worry Al, my first time out I ran awsome, but my second time to go I killed it 3X doing a burn out, scratched 2nd 2X's, and scratched 3rd 1X. Then this last time I ran good, so you will have good and bad days, all you have to do is practice. My wife said she never knew I killed it, but she heard me grind gears.
Oh definately practice is needed LOL Been working on speed-shifting. I've had the car for almost 2 years and haven't missed as many gears as I have in the past few days! Still have to find a nice quiet place near me that I can work on my footwork for doing a burnout, and my launch. I know it is different on the street then it will be at the track but at least I will have a starting point...
Old 6/9/08, 05:40 AM
  #186  
Legacy TMS Member
 
tom281's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 8, 2005
Location: Medina county, OH
Posts: 12,397
Received 29 Likes on 22 Posts
Old 6/9/08, 07:55 AM
  #187  
Mach 1 Member
 
EastCoast07GtCs's Avatar
 
Join Date: November 7, 2007
Location: Brigantine, NJ
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sure Tom, it's like a disaster. You don't want to look, but somehow you HAVE too. LOL
Old 6/9/08, 08:00 AM
  #188  
Mach 1 Member
 
EastCoast07GtCs's Avatar
 
Join Date: November 7, 2007
Location: Brigantine, NJ
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hey Dean, how much did you end up cutting off from the passenger side hanger?? Looks like I'll need to go in that direction. I got everything to line up, but it turns out that the h-pipe was too tight, and that brought the over-axle pipes in closer to the center. That now causes two problems, first, the mufflers won't line up thats to the tabs at the end of the over-axles, and two, it's now too close to the trunk and rattles against that. So opening the h-pipe up to fix those two I end up with the rattle again from the hanger...

TBH, if it wasn't so noticible at idle (which I guess is where most rattling occurs), I probably wouldn't care as much since I can't hear anything but the headers when I'm pushing it...
Old 6/9/08, 03:25 PM
  #189  
Bullitt Member
Thread Starter
 
Redrocket06's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 2, 2008
Location: Houston, TX 12.0 @ 118
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Al, the hanger on my passenger side was the rattler, and I know it is a BAD rattle. Annoying as heck when car is cold or at idle. I just cut about an inch off the end that stuck out from the other side of the rubber mount, and also tried to bend the hanger on the hpipe down some. It has never made a peep since. Let me know if you need some pics......
Sorry to hear that about your mufflers not lining up, I have my stockers on and never even looked at them till I had everything bolted up and tight. I just got lucky they where lined up when I finished lol. I still need to get the passenger muffler bracket welded now (it is cracked), that is the last rattle on the car, I hope.
Old 6/9/08, 04:17 PM
  #190  
Mach 1 Member
 
EastCoast07GtCs's Avatar
 
Join Date: November 7, 2007
Location: Brigantine, NJ
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Appreciate it Dean, I figured that was the case. The muffler rub is because of the way I twisted the over-axle in the h-pipe. Once I clear up the hanger I'll twist the pipes back to normal and that should clear up the mufflers as well!

If you've got pics of the cut and bend you did I'd like to see it. If not, don't go through any trouble, I'm sure I'll see it when I get it off... AGAIN lmao

Either way though, how did you go about bending it without compromising the weld?

Last edited by EastCoast07GtCs; 6/9/08 at 04:20 PM.
Old 6/9/08, 05:44 PM
  #191  
Legacy TMS Member
 
70MACH1OWNER's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 9, 2005
Location: New Carlisle, Ohio (20 miles north of Dayton)
Posts: 6,982
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by EastCoast07GtCs
Sure Tom, it's like a disaster. You don't want to look, but somehow you HAVE too. LOL

Now you know why I bought an automatic. Your brain and reflexes don't work as great as they did at Tom's age. We'll see what he is driving in 20 years. So I took the mash and go way!!!!!! It is really pretty easy. I don't have your issues Al.
Scott
Old 6/9/08, 05:56 PM
  #192  
Mach 1 Member
 
EastCoast07GtCs's Avatar
 
Join Date: November 7, 2007
Location: Brigantine, NJ
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 70MACH1OWNER
Now you know why I bought an automatic. Your brain and reflexes don't work as great as they did at Tom's age. We'll see what he is driving in 20 years. So I took the mash and go way!!!!!! It is really pretty easy. I don't have your issues Al.
Scott
Thanks Scott, you're a real gem

I like the mash and go method, just trying to keep the 'grind' or 'missed gear' out of the equation.
Old 6/9/08, 06:29 PM
  #193  
Legacy TMS Member
 
tom281's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 8, 2005
Location: Medina county, OH
Posts: 12,397
Received 29 Likes on 22 Posts
Originally Posted by EastCoast07GtCs
Sure Tom, it's like a disaster. You don't want to look, but somehow you HAVE too. LOL
I've been right where you are now..... You'll get the feedback from some posters that says "LEARN TO DRIVE, DUMBA$$".....or "shoulda bought an automatic 'cause they're easier". When really what they mean is "slip the clutch hard, starting at 4000rpm and higher" or "yeah the auto is easier, and I'm lazy and like it that way" respectively.

Truly I think the best thing you can do to improve your times (ruling out practice because if you're like me there just isn't time to get to the track but maybe once a month and we only have four good months of track weather) is to buy a set of sticky drag radials. They not only allow you to hook up with ~300+ rwhp, but they also are forgiving of alot of typical driver errors when it comes to launching without a lot of practice.

Originally Posted by 70MACH1OWNER
Now you know why I bought an automatic. Your brain and reflexes don't work as great as they did at Tom's age. We'll see what he is driving in 20 years. So I took the mash and go way!!!!!! It is really pretty easy. I don't have your issues Al.
Scott
In 20 years, I'll probably be dead and gone at the rate I'm moving...... Don't get me wrong, autos have their purpose and the 5r55s in these cars is actually a really good auto trans.

Originally Posted by EastCoast07GtCs
Thanks Scott, you're a real gem

I like the mash and go method, just trying to keep the 'grind' or 'missed gear' out of the equation.
Rule #1: don't take advice on driving a manual trans from someone who now drives an auto.
Old 6/9/08, 06:35 PM
  #194  
Mach 1 Member
 
EastCoast07GtCs's Avatar
 
Join Date: November 7, 2007
Location: Brigantine, NJ
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by tom281
Rule #1: don't take advice on driving a manual trans from someone who now drives an auto.


It's simple really, I just need to go, mess up, take my lumps, and learn so I can get better. I can ask all the question I want, but nothing applies until I am there doing it.
Old 6/9/08, 06:36 PM
  #195  
Legacy TMS Member
 
70MACH1OWNER's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 9, 2005
Location: New Carlisle, Ohio (20 miles north of Dayton)
Posts: 6,982
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by tom281
I've been right where you are now..... You'll get the feedback from some posters that says "LEARN TO DRIVE, DUMBA$$".....or "shoulda bought an automatic 'cause they're easier". When really what they mean is "slip the clutch hard, starting at 4000rpm and higher" or "yeah the auto is easier, and I'm lazy and like it that way" respectively.

Truly I think the best thing you can do to improve your times (ruling out practice because if you're like me there just isn't time to get to the track but maybe once a month and we only have four good months of track weather) is to buy a set of sticky drag radials. They not only allow you to hook up with ~300+ rwhp, but they also are forgiving of alot of typical driver errors when it comes to launching without a lot of practice.



In 20 years, I'll probably be dead and gone at the rate I'm moving...... Don't get me wrong, autos have their purpose and the 5r55s in these cars is actually a really good auto trans.



Rule #1: don't take advice on driving a manual trans from someone who now drives an auto.



Well you guys have heard my next advise more than you want too. Take the advise of your elders. It's a live and learn life. Heck a year ago Tom was all over the Vortec SC when I keep telling him twinscrews and just the other day he was pumping up how good the Saleen TS was. So I guess he got a little older in the last year!!
Old 6/9/08, 09:14 PM
  #196  
Mach 1 Member
 
Fords4Ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 13, 2004
Posts: 985
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by tom281
Don't get me wrong, autos have their purpose...
Yeah...in Minivans
Old 6/10/08, 10:31 AM
  #197  
Bullitt Member
Thread Starter
 
Redrocket06's Avatar
 
Join Date: March 2, 2008
Location: Houston, TX 12.0 @ 118
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by EastCoast07GtCs
If you've got pics of the cut and bend you did I'd like to see it. If not, don't go through any trouble, I'm sure I'll see it when I get it off... AGAIN lmao

Either way though, how did you go about bending it without compromising the weld?
I just used a pry bar, put it between the part that it rubbed and the hanger and pryed it down about 1cm, then used an air cut off tool to trim 1in off, a grinder would work too.

I did not make pics as I worked but I can see if I can take a good one with the car on the ground when I get home. Good Luck!
Old 6/10/08, 12:28 PM
  #198  
Legacy TMS Member
 
tom281's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 8, 2005
Location: Medina county, OH
Posts: 12,397
Received 29 Likes on 22 Posts
Originally Posted by Fords4Ever
Yeah...in Minivans
hhahahaa

Originally Posted by Redrocket06
I just used a pry bar, put it between the part that it rubbed and the hanger and pryed it down about 1cm, then used an air cut off tool to trim 1in off, a grinder would work too.
Good info Dean.
Old 6/10/08, 02:15 PM
  #199  
Legacy TMS Member
 
70MACH1OWNER's Avatar
 
Join Date: January 9, 2005
Location: New Carlisle, Ohio (20 miles north of Dayton)
Posts: 6,982
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by Fords4Ever
Yeah...in Minivans
ouch!! :-)
Old 6/10/08, 05:56 PM
  #200  
Mach 1 Member
 
Fords4Ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: October 13, 2004
Posts: 985
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by 70MACH1OWNER
ouch!! :-)
Sorry...couldn't resist.


Quick Reply: Pulled trigger on LT's



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:18 PM.