Ponies on The Run (Again)
12/18/07, 11:19 PM
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I honestly had high hopes and thought that maybe, just maybe things would work out and for awhile it sounded like it would. Perhaps and it seems likely that Tom has much more patience than and is much more even-keeled than others, myself included, would be given the same circumstances. It also seems that it's probably not completely GMSs fault either but they don't seem to be helping and I think something like this where Tom had so close communications with them they would bend-over backwards to help, again I don't see that happening. But hey... they sold another 14 turbos and no-one else is *****ing so all is OK, right ?
Bill... who knows... off causing trouble I'm sure. If not he should be.
Is it raining cats-n-dogs down there too ? We have a *show* tomorrow night and I washed the car Sunday... friggin rain (and I love the rain and we need it) now the car looks like crap. Argh. I'm sure it'll looks crappier tomorrow too. Hopefully it'll be dark enough where no-one will notice.
A couple recent pics. The dark one I love because it shows the reflections of the sky so well.
God I love my car...
Bill... who knows... off causing trouble I'm sure. If not he should be.
Is it raining cats-n-dogs down there too ? We have a *show* tomorrow night and I washed the car Sunday... friggin rain (and I love the rain and we need it) now the car looks like crap. Argh. I'm sure it'll looks crappier tomorrow too. Hopefully it'll be dark enough where no-one will notice.
A couple recent pics. The dark one I love because it shows the reflections of the sky so well.
God I love my car...
12/18/07, 11:22 PM
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It's late December and I'm complaining that it's raining a little bit.... slightly spoiled here in California I guess.
Anyway, yeah I'm going and unless it's bad I'm staying for whatever period of time, 8-830... or so.
12/18/07, 11:22 PM
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Here is a weather report for Wednesday:
12/19/07, 01:05 AM
The GMS turbo kit was prematurely released into the market without the needed R&D of ALL models from 05-08 with all their little differences and quirks.
Although he'll never admit it openly, I'm betting that he wished he went the SC route.
Looks like the Mod shut it down because it was no longer constructive to the general forum, but more of a 2-way tech support.
I do hope that Tom gets this turbo running like its supposed to and hopefully put this issue to bed.
If it were me, I'd switch them out and sell the GMS stuff. Or, you could always throw some BMR stickers on them.
I've been x-mas shopping at the mall all night.
Taking the 'block my plate' approach like Mike?
Brian, if 'the man' has your number, I highly doubt a fuzzy plate will protect you.
12/19/07, 03:31 AM
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Great looking pics Brian. I really need to set a photoshoot day. I wish I had a support/motivation group to get me going on pictures.
Anways, long story short. Brake install went down yesterday. Stumbled across a few problems along the way. Centri pads I ordered were all defective with none of the metal clips attached to the spring itself. Rotorpros(thus far) seems to be more then willing to arrange a return. I decided to keep stock pads as there brand new.
2nd... and most annoying was the use of hi-temp paint... Once the car was completed I took it out for a short spin around the block to hear really nast sounds everytime I braked. I stopped for a second and then took off to feel hesitation. That should been my first clue to drive it harder and clean the rotors of the paint. Anyways, I took it back into the garage parked it for about 5-10mins. Then tried to back it out of the garage... Wrong. Car pads STUCK to the rotors in those few minutes. Had to take off all wheels, rotors, calipers which we're stuck together and clean off all that paint which act as a sealer. Should have driven it more to clear it all off but I didn't. Just a little word to the wise.
I'll give a better impression of the SS lines later today after work
Anways, long story short. Brake install went down yesterday. Stumbled across a few problems along the way. Centri pads I ordered were all defective with none of the metal clips attached to the spring itself. Rotorpros(thus far) seems to be more then willing to arrange a return. I decided to keep stock pads as there brand new.
2nd... and most annoying was the use of hi-temp paint... Once the car was completed I took it out for a short spin around the block to hear really nast sounds everytime I braked. I stopped for a second and then took off to feel hesitation. That should been my first clue to drive it harder and clean the rotors of the paint. Anyways, I took it back into the garage parked it for about 5-10mins. Then tried to back it out of the garage... Wrong. Car pads STUCK to the rotors in those few minutes. Had to take off all wheels, rotors, calipers which we're stuck together and clean off all that paint which act as a sealer. Should have driven it more to clear it all off but I didn't. Just a little word to the wise.
I'll give a better impression of the SS lines later today after work
12/19/07, 05:51 AM
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I stayed out of the Turbo fray lately as I really had no value add. GMS so enraged me that I felt it better to let it go, I said my peace trust me on that.
It also confirmed that I would never ever buy from GMS, anything no matter how simple it was. And I'll be letting anyone who wants to know how I feel about GMS thats for sure.
It also confirmed to me that I could not install a turbo like Tom did, Bill could tackle it I'm sure but me, no way. I'd buy the kit and have it professionally installed and let the installer ensure it was done correctly and to spec. I know thats a bunch of extra cash but I'd understand that going into it.
Toms a good man, he held his "cool", much better then most (I for sure ha) I certainly hope the root cause is determined and the resolution is found and we all get a chance to hear the cause and the fix. Shutting down the thread seemed premature but I understand the lock. I've seen threads get much more confrontational, I though most if not all pretty much behaved themselves.
12/19/07, 07:14 AM
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It kinda sucks they shut down the thread. I was getting a lot of info. But I can still talk to the main people through PMs.
No, I would not have gone SC.
If I could do it ALL over again, I would buy the same kit.
It's NOT as bad as it seems, really!
With a turbo lag issue, I have (approx) 425 RWHP / 405 RWTQ on a Dyno Jet. Wait to I get the vacuum line hooked up properly (a new revelation), and the boost controller hooked up.
Another way to look at it:
If I was racing, I would be pi$$ed from the lack of torque and getting the car moving off the line.
I'm NOT racing it, so now I have a 500+ BHP machine that's still extremely quick, sounds bad as hell, doesn't put much wear-and-tear on the drivetrain (or clutch), get's 22+ average MPG, and looks great a car shows.
Am I supposed to be upset?? Do you REALLY feel bad for me??
No, I would not have gone SC.
If I could do it ALL over again, I would buy the same kit.
It's NOT as bad as it seems, really!
With a turbo lag issue, I have (approx) 425 RWHP / 405 RWTQ on a Dyno Jet. Wait to I get the vacuum line hooked up properly (a new revelation), and the boost controller hooked up.
Another way to look at it:
If I was racing, I would be pi$$ed from the lack of torque and getting the car moving off the line.
I'm NOT racing it, so now I have a 500+ BHP machine that's still extremely quick, sounds bad as hell, doesn't put much wear-and-tear on the drivetrain (or clutch), get's 22+ average MPG, and looks great a car shows.
Am I supposed to be upset?? Do you REALLY feel bad for me??
12/19/07, 07:23 AM
Hey Jonathan, WE are your support/motivation group!
Now go out and take some pics of your ride and post them up.
Sorry to hear about the brake ordeal, sounds like you've got a handle on it now though.
Tom is a Trooper through all this, but I think he's reached the end of his 'cool' line.
For those that don't know JR (like me), he's a vid clip of him.
Now go out and take some pics of your ride and post them up.
Sorry to hear about the brake ordeal, sounds like you've got a handle on it now though.
It also confirmed that I would never ever buy from GMS, anything no matter how simple it was. And I'll be letting anyone who wants to know how I feel about GMS thats for sure.
Toms a good man, he held his "cool", much better then most (I for sure ha) I certainly hope the root cause is determined and the resolution is found and we all get a chance to hear the cause and the fix.
Toms a good man, he held his "cool", much better then most (I for sure ha) I certainly hope the root cause is determined and the resolution is found and we all get a chance to hear the cause and the fix.
For those that don't know JR (like me), he's a vid clip of him.
12/19/07, 07:33 AM
Doesn't bother you that you installed everything per their directions and it doesn't work like it's supposed to? Or the fact that you have to go and buy other stuff just to make it work?
And yes, I REALLY felt bad for you, but not so sure now... you seem to be pretty happy about this whole experience, which is great if true.
12/19/07, 07:47 AM
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For those that don't know JR (like me), he's a vid clip of him.
When I watched that vid Bill that saying came to mind...................
12/19/07, 08:09 AM
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Are you kidding me??
I just said it was another way to look at it.
Doesn't bother you that you installed everything per their directions and it doesn't work like it's supposed to? Or the fact that you have to go and buy other stuff just to make it work?
The funny thing is, I still haven't hooked it up per their directions. The directions say to hook the waste gate up to a boost source before the throttle plate. At the same time, I was told it really didn't matter, so I hooked it up to the same place I hooked up the BOV (after the throttle plate). This is the "new revlation" that I will be fixing next. As far as the boost controller, that will take max psi from 6 to 8. I guess it was supposed to be 6 all along, but 8 (even 9) is still safe. Over 9 and I'm pushing the limits of the fuel pump.
And yes, I REALLY felt bad for you, but not so sure now... you seem to be pretty happy about this whole experience, which is great if true.
Thank you for REALLY feeling bad for me. Certain things I'm not thrilled about, but the turbo thread blew it way out of proportion (which was JR's fault).
I just said it was another way to look at it.
Doesn't bother you that you installed everything per their directions and it doesn't work like it's supposed to? Or the fact that you have to go and buy other stuff just to make it work?
The funny thing is, I still haven't hooked it up per their directions. The directions say to hook the waste gate up to a boost source before the throttle plate. At the same time, I was told it really didn't matter, so I hooked it up to the same place I hooked up the BOV (after the throttle plate). This is the "new revlation" that I will be fixing next. As far as the boost controller, that will take max psi from 6 to 8. I guess it was supposed to be 6 all along, but 8 (even 9) is still safe. Over 9 and I'm pushing the limits of the fuel pump.
And yes, I REALLY felt bad for you, but not so sure now... you seem to be pretty happy about this whole experience, which is great if true.
Thank you for REALLY feeling bad for me.
Certain things I'm not thrilled about, but the turbo thread blew it way out of proportion (which was JR's fault).
12/19/07, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JonCo;
Anways, long story short. Brake install went down yesterday. Stumbled across a few problems along the way. Centri pads I ordered were all defective with none of the metal clips attached to the spring itself. Rotorpros(thus far) seems to be more then willing to arrange a return. I decided to keep stock pads as there brand new.
2nd... and most annoying was the use of hi-temp paint... Once the car was completed I took it out for a short spin around the block to hear really nast sounds everytime I braked. I stopped for a second and then took off to feel hesitation. That should been my first clue to drive it harder and clean the rotors of the paint. Anyways, I took it back into the garage parked it for about 5-10mins. Then tried to back it out of the garage... Wrong. Car pads STUCK to the rotors in those few minutes. Had to take off all wheels, rotors, calipers which we're stuck together and clean off all that paint which act as a sealer. Should have driven it more to clear it all off but I didn't. Just a little word to the wise.
I'll give a better impression of the SS lines later today after work
2nd... and most annoying was the use of hi-temp paint... Once the car was completed I took it out for a short spin around the block to hear really nast sounds everytime I braked. I stopped for a second and then took off to feel hesitation. That should been my first clue to drive it harder and clean the rotors of the paint. Anyways, I took it back into the garage parked it for about 5-10mins. Then tried to back it out of the garage... Wrong. Car pads STUCK to the rotors in those few minutes. Had to take off all wheels, rotors, calipers which we're stuck together and clean off all that paint which act as a sealer. Should have driven it more to clear it all off but I didn't. Just a little word to the wise.
I'll give a better impression of the SS lines later today after work
yeah that paint is a PITA...
Originally Posted by Trooper89
Am I supposed to be upset?? Do you REALLY feel bad for me??
It's like getting a beej from someone with braces
12/19/07, 08:17 AM
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Great pics, BTW.
12/19/07, 08:38 AM
Ouch! You are now our official POTR turbo 'go-to' guy!
12/19/07, 08:42 AM
My Steeda LCA's are here. Now waiting for the Prothane mounts to come in. If the wife has no plans for me on Saturday, I may install one or both.
And as an added bonus, I heard Leo's springing for pizza!!
And as an added bonus, I heard Leo's springing for pizza!!
12/19/07, 08:56 AM
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Thanks for the compliments. I got a better lens for my camera and have been playing with it. Its been fun so far.
Bill So... install party at your house Sat.?
Hey Tom.. what happened on the Everest ride ? Does it affect you adversly ?
12/19/07, 09:25 AM
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12/19/07, 09:57 AM
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You're not the only one.
I know you're gonna love the LCAs. I'm surprised you haven't done them sooner.
I know you're gonna love the LCAs. I'm surprised you haven't done them sooner.
12/19/07, 09:59 AM