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Old May 21, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by shurtual86
X86? I swear I heard them say x64, that article might be wrong (Engadget).
This site claims x86 as well

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/...playstation-4/
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Old May 21, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
Hey! I DD mine. I'm not Gary

At least I can hear my car! :P
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Old May 21, 2013 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
Hmm, I swear I heard x64, I'm probably mistaken.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by laserred38

At least I can hear my car! :P
I can too. Sound tube ftw!!!
Originally Posted by shurtual86

Hmm, I swear I heard x64, I'm probably mistaken.
Which one is better?
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Old May 21, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
I can too. Sound tube ftw!!!

Which one is better?
X86 is 32 bit and 64 is 64 bit. 64 is better.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by steven46746

X86 is 32 bit and 64 is 64 bit. 64 is better.
Aaahh. I though Windows 8 only ran on 64 bit? Guess not cuz this thing is running Windows 8, RT, and some Xbox OS. Although they did say it's a slimmed down version
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Old May 21, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva

Aaahh. I though Windows 8 only ran on 64 bit? Guess not cuz this thing is running Windows 8, RT, and some Xbox OS. Although they did say it's a slimmed down version
Won't necessarily make or break its gaming performance.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by steven46746

Won't necessarily make or break its gaming performance.
I don't think so either. Although some are worried about it.

I'm more ecstatic that the architectures for the One and the PS4 are similar. Finally ports won't be an issue
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Old May 21, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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Im more curious of what the next "jtag" hack will be. Being somewhat windows based I think its gonna be easier to mod/hack...
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Old May 21, 2013 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shurtual86
X86? I swear I heard them say x64, that article might be wrong (Engadget).

Hmm, I swear I heard x64, I'm probably mistaken.
x86 is an instruction set architecture (which is what PC's run on). x64 is shorthand for x86-64, which is the 64-bit version of the x86 architecture. I'm sure it's probably 64-bit compatible, but being x86 based is what is important.

Originally Posted by stangfoeva
Aaahh. I though Windows 8 only ran on 64 bit? Guess not cuz this thing is running Windows 8, RT, and some Xbox OS. Although they did say it's a slimmed down version
Windows 8 comes in 32-bit and 64-bit versions. It wouldn't surprise me if it runs a special version of Windows Embedded 8 (what you would find on a kiosk or thin client). Windows RT is ARM-based, so that's out of the question. The 360 OS has slowly been becoming Windows 8, so why not go ahead and give it the real thing. It wouldn't surprise me if this is also part of a plan to help further push Windows 8 on people that refuse to give it a chance.

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Im more curious of what the next "jtag" hack will be. Being somewhat windows based I think its gonna be easier to mod/hack...
That was exactly my main point. I've got plenty of old hardware lying around that I bet I can find a way to turn into an Xbox now. And with that...I think hacking will be a lot more like PC gaming.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stupidgenius36
x86 is an instruction set architecture (which is what PC's run on). x64 is shorthand for x86-64, which is the 64-bit version of the x86 architecture. I'm sure it's probably 64-bit compatible, but being x86 based is what is important.


Windows 8 comes in 32-bit and 64-bit versions. It wouldn't surprise me if it runs a special version of Windows Embedded 8 (what you would find on a kiosk or thin client). Windows RT is ARM-based, so that's out of the question. The 360 OS has slowly been becoming Windows 8, so why not go ahead and give it the real thing. It wouldn't surprise me if this is also part of a plan to help further push Windows 8 on people that refuse to give it a chance.


That was exactly my main point. I've got plenty of old hardware lying around that I bet I can find a way to turn into an Xbox now. And with that...I think hacking will be a lot more like PC gaming.
Cool thanks for the info.

I mispoke on RT. They said it'd be similar.

Interesting read on porting titles Re: x86

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/x...e-vs-nintendo/
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Old May 21, 2013 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by stupidgenius36
x86 is an instruction set architecture (which is what PC's run on). x64 is shorthand for x86-64, which is the 64-bit version of the x86 architecture. I'm sure it's probably 64-bit compatible, but being x86 based is what is important.

Windows 8 comes in 32-bit and 64-bit versions. It wouldn't surprise me if it runs a special version of Windows Embedded 8 (what you would find on a kiosk or thin client). Windows RT is ARM-based, so that's out of the question. The 360 OS has slowly been becoming Windows 8, so why not go ahead and give it the real thing. It wouldn't surprise me if this is also part of a plan to help further push Windows 8 on people that refuse to give it a chance.

That was exactly my main point. I've got plenty of old hardware lying around that I bet I can find a way to turn into an Xbox now. And with that...I think hacking will be a lot more like PC gaming.
The only thing that would keep you off xbox live is the device serial number is registered with microsoft. Probably could build one for off-line use. Console hacks I feel will be prevalent. But surely microsoft will continue to watch live and ban the hackers... but your still gonna see alot of hackers.

What would be more interesting is if you could play the xbox 1 games on pc and still compete with the consolers.. but thats highly unlikely.
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Old May 21, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
Cool thanks for the info.

I mispoke on RT. They said it'd be similar.

Interesting read on porting titles Re: x86

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/x...e-vs-nintendo/
They have some valid points. But Nintendo has never been about power. They realized long ago that it is a dead end. They continue to try to innovate, and I applaud them for that. Microsoft and Sony are about to realize that they're getting into PC territory, and I don't think they'll win that battle. They already began to realize it with the current generation of consoles, which is why they started trying to take advantage of apps and being a "media center" as opposed to just a gaming console.
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Old May 22, 2013 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking

The only thing that would keep you off xbox live is the device serial number is registered with microsoft. Probably could build one for off-line use. Console hacks I feel will be prevalent. But surely microsoft will continue to watch live and ban the hackers... but your still gonna see alot of hackers.

What would be more interesting is if you could play the xbox 1 games on pc and still compete with the consolers.. but thats highly unlikely.
there will be hackers and hacks for any console regardless of OS.
As for the cross-console gaming, IIRC didn't Steam and PS3 try something similar with Portal 2?

Originally Posted by stupidgenius36
They have some valid points. But Nintendo has never been about power. They realized long ago that it is a dead end. They continue to try to innovate, and I applaud them for that. Microsoft and Sony are about to realize that they're getting into PC territory, and I don't think they'll win that battle. They already began to realize it with the current generation of consoles, which is why they started trying to take advantage of apps and being a "media center" as opposed to just a gaming console.
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Old May 22, 2013 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by shurtual86
there will be hackers and hacks for any console regardless of OS.
As for the cross-console gaming, IIRC didn't Steam and PS3 try something similar with Portal 2?
Yeah. But the xbox took a while to hack. With the move to pretty much pc based console I feel the console will be easier to hack.

I have portal 2. Never heard of a cross to ps3 though
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Old May 22, 2013 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking

I have portal 2. Never heard of a cross to ps3 though
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...5477-WPJM-9388

I only remember because Steam was selling a PC version of Portal 2 and you could get a PS3 version at discount, when it released.
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Old May 25, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking

Yeah. But the xbox took a while to hack. With the move to pretty much pc based console I feel the console will be easier to hack.

I have portal 2. Never heard of a cross to ps3 though
They did do that
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Old May 25, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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Alright. Geekin out a bit tommorow. Buying 2 three tb 7200 rpm hard drives and a sata 3 raid controller. Looking to run raid 1. This is my first time ever really attemping to build a useful server. Im gonna be hosting 2 local forums and about 4 basic websites. Might host more websites down the road for friends and whatnot.

Current setup:
amd 3 core processor
8 gigs ddr3
1 650 gig hard drive with ubuntu lamp server 64 bit.
Integrated graphics (no need for graphics really)

Adding the 3 tb raid for the sites and forums. Leaving the 650 for operating system and my movies. The server has a graphical user interface as it is connected to the tv for movie watching but all the management is done on my desktop via putty and filezilla.

I have fios internet averaging 65mb down and 35mb up.

Since this is my first real go around what am I to expect? How many members can be actively on the forums with this setup and internet speed? Am I wasting my time? I figured the triple core could handle this load fairly easy.

Also with raid 1. Curious what I would do if 1 drive failed. Do I simply unplug the bad drive and plug in the new one and it self copies over. Or would I have to configure it to?

Thanks in advance for comments and help
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Old May 26, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Is this on your home internet? If Fios is like any other ISP, i'm sure they will put a stop to you running any type of website on your service. You're gonna need a hosting service for that!
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Old May 26, 2013 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
Alright. Geekin out a bit tommorow. Buying 2 three tb 7200 rpm hard drives and a sata 3 raid controller. Looking to run raid 1. This is my first time ever really attemping to build a useful server. Im gonna be hosting 2 local forums and about 4 basic websites. Might host more websites down the road for friends and whatnot.

Current setup:
amd 3 core processor
8 gigs ddr3
1 650 gig hard drive with ubuntu lamp server 64 bit.
Integrated graphics (no need for graphics really)

Adding the 3 tb raid for the sites and forums. Leaving the 650 for operating system and my movies. The server has a graphical user interface as it is connected to the tv for movie watching but all the management is done on my desktop via putty and filezilla.

I have fios internet averaging 65mb down and 35mb up.

Since this is my first real go around what am I to expect? How many members can be actively on the forums with this setup and internet speed? Am I wasting my time? I figured the triple core could handle this load fairly easy.

Also with raid 1. Curious what I would do if 1 drive failed. Do I simply unplug the bad drive and plug in the new one and it self copies over. Or would I have to configure it to?

Thanks in advance for comments and help
With the questions you're asking, please keep good backups.
I suggest doing some reading on raids, hosting, server Managment before trying to just throw live content out. Oh and den was rigt about your ISP, they figure out you're running a server and they may shut you off, or make you get a business level Internet, whic is not cheap. Not to mention I hope you have a good firewall and your personal stuff is on a different network. Cause your introducing a gateway to hacks
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