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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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The V6 is more powerful the than the 8 that was out a few years back.

I had a yellow V6 with the Appearance Package (spoiler/stripe), rip by me down Telegraph Road (those in SE Michigan will know this road well) and he by no means was slow. The car took off like a bullet and weaved around traffic for a mile. Of course, due to the stoplights, I caught up to him. We both just grinned.

FWIW, I like the looks of the stock V6, sans spoiler and minus those two headlights better. I can see why the spoiler delete option on the GT will be popular.

Read the Order Guide. Ford will sell alot more V6's than GT-8s and not all of them will be bought by "chicks".

I sat in a Sonic Blue GT today. It was parked just down from my Sonic Blue SVT '02 Focus (which by the way is for sale...great car, just need to save for the 'Stang). After getting out of the new 'Stang, I was in "Love". I will buy this car next spring or summer, depending on how much I can save to put down on it. Seeing as I will hit my 40th B-day next May and get a nice dip in insurance, I think I will opt for the fast one...

Buy what you like and like what you buy.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by HairyCanary+August 16, 2004, 8:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (HairyCanary @ August 16, 2004, 8:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Maverick128@August 16, 2004, 4:36 AM
Hey, I'm a 22 year old guy and I am going to go with the V6. As far as lack of power? Well within the first year I'll be saving up for that Supercharger and CAI thank you.
Why not wait and use that money you were saving for the supercharger to just get the V8 to begin with? I can't see where it financially makes sense to buy a V6 and then try to make it as fast as the V8. Ford really can do the upgrade cheaper than the aftermarket.

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Well Ford can't really help with my insurance premiums or personal property taxes (which happen to be fairly high where I live). I don't plan on ricing it. In fact I think that is stupid. However, If I can get a well off V6 for 21,000 and put 3,500 into to boost the power quite a bit, well, that's about the base price (probably) of a new GT w/out extras. But I'm just chiming in. In fact, I would prefer a GT, but financing would be a problem for me. The lower the starting price, the better the chance I get my Stang.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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Be careful assuming that the insurance is in fact cheaper -- you may not be covered at all if you put a supercharger on. A lot of policies have a clause that voids the coverage if a power adder is used.

Are you planning on buying a V6 brand new? Within 6 months to a year, their will be plenty of used GT's on sale for way under MSRP.

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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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Well I still have till next summer, so anything can happen. A used GT might not be out of the question. Thanks for the feedback.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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gas here is at over 5 US$ per gallon :P I guess I can consider myself lucky that I cannot even afford importing a Stang
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by TennesseeMustangManiac@August 15, 2004, 8:02 PM
I'm getting a little tired of all the V6 abuse on this website. Yes, I know they are not as powerful, and yes the V6 mustang seems to be labled as a "Chick Car", but please stop the hate. If that is all people can afford then let it be. I have heard a member say "I would kill myself if I had a V6." Also, even people's individual rankings begin with "V6 member." Before you say, "We dont hate them, they are just not powerful" know this... V6 mustangs are a lot more powerful than a lot of comparable cars on the road now. They are more powerful than the V6 accords and civics, and other import jibberish. Owning a mustang is awesome enough, don't rip on people who have a V6. Please.
The new Mustang V6 is a great looking car. The wheels and spinners along with its blacked out grill look great. Looks aside, the car is also a great value for the price. Plus it is an American icon. Import V6 vs Mustang = Mustang by a long shot (in my opinion). No qualms here with the Mustang V6, it definately stands on its own merits.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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Anyone know if the V6 is a all new motor? I was thinking it might of been the one from the mazda6 but that one is only a (3.0L DOHC 24-valve V6 engine with Variable Valve Timing) and also not the 2004 mustang V6 (Engine: 3.8L V6 OHV SMPI) where as the new stangs V6 is a (4.0L SOHC V6)...so is this a all new motor?
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 06:55 AM
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V6s are allright. I'm glad they are around, because they make up more than 50% of the Stang market. I haven't really seen V6 bashing here, but I have seen a few people express their personal opinions. Isn't that what discussion boards are for?

Here's mine: I have owned 9 Mustangs, they were all V8s, and I wouldn't change that for the world. My roommate has a V6, and it doesn't compare. I'll never own a V6 Stang. My Explorer has a 4.0L V6, but my car has gotta have the V8. American muscle!!!
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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My 89 GT would get 27mpg on the highway in 5th. gear. Around town short shifting I would get about 20 mpg. Not bad with 300 ft. lbs. of tire shredding torque off the line! It all comes down to how agressive you drive just be selective when you unleash them Ponies
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by tom_vilsack@August 16, 2004, 10:48 PM
Anyone know if the V6 is a all new motor? I was thinking it might of been the one from the mazda6 but that one is only a (3.0L DOHC 24-valve V6 engine with Variable Valve Timing) and also not the 2004 mustang V6 (Engine: 3.8L V6 OHV SMPI) where as the new stangs V6 is a (4.0L SOHC V6)...so is this a all new motor?
It's the same motor they're using currently in the 4.0L Rangers.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by 1 BULLITT@August 16, 2004, 8:11 PM
Other than being tailored made for wimps and women, I see nothing wrong with them.
This woman won't be driving a V6!
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by Donna@August 16, 2004, 4:26 PM
I have owned both and can tell you that I NEVER had a clean driving record when owning a GT. The past 3 Mustangs I have had have all been V6's and my 05 will be also. Insurance is cheaper, Property Taxes are cheaper & Gas is Cheaper and my driving record is completely clean. Just my 2 cents worth. Never really noticed any V6 bashing here though.
This post kinda made me ill. I dont see how in the world that your property tax went up because you had a gt compared to a v6. As far as the insurance company wanting more thats bull my insurance guy quoted me the same price on a v6 as a gt. What mpg does a v6 get? My 00gt got 25mpg so I dont see that as being to bad. I have nothing agains v6 cars but this post was totally incorrect. The fact that you couldnt drive a gt responsibly was your fault not because the car was fast. heck you can get a ticket in a v6 car just as easy.

Personally I wouldnt own a v6 if I can buy a better all around car for 4-5 thousand more. The same reason that when I get my f250 I will be getting a diesel in it. The performance of the diesel highly out performs the v10 or the v8.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by Andy Haynes@August 17, 2004, 8:30 AM

I dont see how in the world that your property tax went up because you had a gt compared to a v6.
I believe property tax is based on the value of the car. So since the GT is more expensive than a V6, you will have to pay more taxes on it.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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From the Mustang US Order Guide

Recommended Mix: V6 "Deluxe" 55%, V6 "Premium" 13%, V8 "Deluxe" 12%, V8 "Premium" 20%

Dealers are suggested to carry 68% V6 to 32% V8 stock... Nough said.

I personally will be getting a V6 instead of a V8 for many reasons... Top of that list is A) I like to look of the V6 More (I prefer the spinner rims, and no fogs), and the cost of the car loaded is near 8k less then the GT (It appears the V6 will top out around 22 to 23 while the V8 will top out around 30). If I want to by a house in the next 5 years I have to go cheaper on the car.

Other reasons for getting a V6 opposed to a V8 are Insurance, and the fact that the most horses I have ever had in a car is 105 (95 Civic DX 4 Banger). So getting a boost of nearly 106 horses will be a whole new experience for me!
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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Property tax is for homes not cars. Unless your buying a something worth 100,000.00 and then its a luxury tax. A car has nothing to do with your home therefore has nothing to do with your property. You will pay a little more tax on your tag if your state is like ga and charges a avilorium tax(forgive my spelling I am sure I just butchered that up). Still has nothing to do on with your property.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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V6 hating? where? when? anyway if there is any going on, pay attention haters! now i personally would prefer the GT over the V6, but the V6 has many admirable qualities. first off, it kept the stang alive, seeing as it counted as most of sales in history. second, if there weren't so many V6's around, we would appreciate the power of the GT and other upgraded models less. third, some people just can't afford a GT so the V6 is there only way to have their own little piece of the musclecar era. i personally may have to go with the V6 in a few years simply for thst financial reason (fifteen year olds dont make to much) but i'll be happy. at least i'll still be able to burn most of the imports in the area, and with a few mods, perhaps all of them. but just to be fair, i'll say one fo the things about our V6 that really irks me. Why aint it an inline? like the aussie falcons!!! those cars are sweet.


oh yah, i know this is kinda off topic, but whats the excahnge for Aussie $ to US$. i wanted to know b/c the aussies have to pay $89K for their mustangs (but their all GTs). just wanted to compare that to our prices..
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by Stadifer@August 17, 2004, 10:19 AM
Sidenote: I've driven my parents Ford Escape which has the 3.0L V6, that car is pretty sporty considering it's a 5400lb vehicle compared to the Mustangs Svelt 3650 or 3750 the Mustang will come in at. Not to mention the Mustang will have a 4.0
The curb weight of the Ford Escape ranges from 3179 lbs for a base FWD model to 3481 for the V6 AWD model (not 5400 lbs!). The V6 Escape makes 200 hp, but less torque than the V6 in the '05 Mustang. The two should be pretty close in weight, so the if you drove the V6 Escape, it should give you some idea of how the V6 Mustang should perform.

Ballpark figures are that the V6 Mustang will hit 0 - 60 in the seven second range and probably hit mid-15 second quarter mile times. Very respectable performance for a car of its price and class.

If I were buying (which I am not in the position to do right now, with a new house and family), I'd be leaning towards the V6 for a couple of reasons. First, it offers a lot of bang for buck. Second, I like the cleaner looks of the V6. And third, I'm more interested in overall performance than I am a sheer acceleration. My experience in powerful cars is that, once you've owned it for a while, you get used to the acceleration and it ceases to be awe-inspiring. But, a nicely balanced sporty car remains fun-to-drive for a long time.

To that end, I'm hoping that the overall balance of handling, braking, power and the important things like steering response, braking feel, etc. will be strong features of all Mustangs, including the V6. It would also be nice to have a "Pony" option that included a handling-tuned suspension, more agressive gearing, and a nice-sounding exhaust. With (potentially) less weight on the front end, such a car could be a very nicely balanced "sporty car" that would attract a different buyer (me, for example) than the more muscular GT. Such a model would also could serve to improve the image of the V6 cars, reinforcing the notion that from bottom to top, the Mustang is an affordable performance car.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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i like that last idea
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by Andy Haynes@August 17, 2004, 10:32 AM
Property tax is for homes not cars. Unless your buying a something worth 100,000.00 and then its a luxury tax. A car has nothing to do with your home therefore has nothing to do with your property. You will pay a little more tax on your tag if your state is like ga and charges a avilorium tax(forgive my spelling I am sure I just butchered that up). Still has nothing to do on with your property.
Actually here in St. Louis, MO I pay $200 a year on my '99 Taurus in personal property taxes. That does not include any house. It all depends on where in the country you live.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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I just talked with my insurance company and there is a whole 4 dollar a month difference on a gt compared to a v6. There goes that myth about the high insurance is the reason you pick v6's. I have no problems with v6's if your just a consumer but if your a mustang enthusiast you should be in a v8 car to see the full capability of it.
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