Paint Quality (Particularly Black)
#61
I followed a new Black Mazda 6 yesterday. Seemed to be great quality. But like I said it was new. Unfortunately, won't see any problems for years.
On the question of poor quality paint.
Where does the poor quality and peeling and blanching come from?
Is it the base coat or the clear coat?
How many coats of clear coat does the factory put on?
On the question of poor quality paint.
Where does the poor quality and peeling and blanching come from?
Is it the base coat or the clear coat?
How many coats of clear coat does the factory put on?
#64
Originally posted by Nazgul@June 10, 2004, 12:27 AM
Saturn is always demonstrating the way you can bang their cars and not damage them. What kind of paint is on them - or isn't that a conventional paint?
Saturn is always demonstrating the way you can bang their cars and not damage them. What kind of paint is on them - or isn't that a conventional paint?
They may add more flex. agent to keep the paint from cracking if it gets hit.
#65
Originally posted by rm2000@June 4, 2004, 10:17 AM
:notnice: Ford paint quality sucks, even as of recently. As mentioned a few posts ago, many new Ford cars (not just the Mustang) have serious problems with orange peel. Also the paint is too darn easy to scratch, its real thin. My Dodge which was 10 years older than my 2000 Mustang had an overall better paint job then my Mustang does!
:notnice: Ford paint quality sucks, even as of recently. As mentioned a few posts ago, many new Ford cars (not just the Mustang) have serious problems with orange peel. Also the paint is too darn easy to scratch, its real thin. My Dodge which was 10 years older than my 2000 Mustang had an overall better paint job then my Mustang does!
My daughter has a Black 99 Ford Focus & her paint hasn't seemed to fade like mine. Is there anything Ford has done to fix this problem as they must have changed paint or they way they apply it between these years? Would like to know but still don't think I can trust them with the Black.
#66
I Have A black colored cobra. I haven't hade any problems with it so far. If you want to maintain it's Black beauty, try waxing it. There Are two types of wax: one for light colors, And one for dark colors.
#67
Originally posted by Tom_GT500@June 12, 2004, 12:23 PM
I Have A black colored cobra. I haven't hade any problems with it so far. If you want to maintain it's Black beauty, try waxing it. There Are two types of wax: one for light colors, And one for dark colors.
I Have A black colored cobra. I haven't hade any problems with it so far. If you want to maintain it's Black beauty, try waxing it. There Are two types of wax: one for light colors, And one for dark colors.
Thanks for the suggestion.
#68
My Cobra's year is 2001. It's 3 years old. The Wax you have should be working. I also have the yellow Carnuba yellow. when you ues the buffer, try not to use it so much. Because you could burn the paint
#69
I have had three mustangs since 96 all black and they all dulled and swirl scratched despite meticulous handling using meguiars 3 step system and always hand washing with only the best supplies....It has made me decide to not get black again. And this time I mean it.
Dave
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Originally posted by vega@June 4, 2004, 6:38 AM
Blue is the ultimate color for not showing dirt. Unless its birdcrrap or something. Stupid birds.
But I WILL wash it every weekend no matter what color
Blue is the ultimate color for not showing dirt. Unless its birdcrrap or something. Stupid birds.
But I WILL wash it every weekend no matter what color
#71
you mean you guys actually wash and wax your cars? never owned black.. currently have dark blue, waxed maybe once in 3 yrs no probs.
then again maybe since i never wash it i cant see the probs.
then again maybe since i never wash it i cant see the probs.
#73
Originally posted by hdwrench@June 13, 2004, 9:14 PM
you mean you guys actually wash and wax your cars?
you mean you guys actually wash and wax your cars?
Dave
#74
I don't think orange peel is limited to Ford. My Onyx Black '01 Alero has plenty of orange peel in the finish. So, don't feel bad.... you're not alone! The Aleros were assembled in Lansing.
#76
Originally posted by scottmandoo@June 24, 2004, 5:24 PM
I don't think orange peel is limited to Ford. My Onyx Black '01 Alero has plenty of orange peel in the finish. So, don't feel bad.... you're not alone! The Aleros were assembled in Lansing.
I don't think orange peel is limited to Ford. My Onyx Black '01 Alero has plenty of orange peel in the finish. So, don't feel bad.... you're not alone! The Aleros were assembled in Lansing.
There are so many variables in automotive painting that result in poor finishes. Their primary goal is to avoid runs, fisheyes and dust in the paint.
I am happy with the Mustang moving to AAI it should have a much more modern paint shop and reduce some of the problems it had at dearborn (runs, thin paint, etc.)
#78
Originally posted by MustangSteve007@June 25, 2004, 9:50 AM
Is it me or do MOST cars companies use the same paint company... only different mixes.
Is it me or do MOST cars companies use the same paint company... only different mixes.
The key with paint is the mixture and the equipment. All new paint facilities have paint booth areas which are totally climate controlled (temperature, humidity, etc) These areas are usually sealed off and any workers entering have to wear special clothing and go through air showers to remove dust. With conditions like this it is easy to formulate the paint to be consistent.
#79
Sorry to dig up the old thread, but I wanted to make a note on the "orange peel" effect people have been seeing. I was next to a brand new Porsche Cayenne Turbo today at a stoplight, and it had extremely noticeable orange-peel on every surface I could see. One would expect from a $70,000+ vehicle to get a decent paint job. If Porsche can't get it mirror-smooth these days, I'm not sure how well Ford will manage.
#80
Originally posted by jgsmuzzy@June 4, 2004, 2:21 PM
Slightly off topic i know, but.......
Here the motorway police play "Snooker" with the cars. If you know how scoring works, (1 for red, 7 for black, you gotta score a red before you can attampt a colour ball) you will see thet the police will pull a red car, then a black, then a red and so on. They will only very rarely pull a white car because potting the white is a foul and their break is over. I am in a high risk car (Blue, so 5 points). I could cope with a zinc yellow B) (2 points so less favourable to the rozza's). So that is my two cents worth.
If you understood it, great. If you didn't, just ignore it!!!!
James
Slightly off topic i know, but.......
Here the motorway police play "Snooker" with the cars. If you know how scoring works, (1 for red, 7 for black, you gotta score a red before you can attampt a colour ball) you will see thet the police will pull a red car, then a black, then a red and so on. They will only very rarely pull a white car because potting the white is a foul and their break is over. I am in a high risk car (Blue, so 5 points). I could cope with a zinc yellow B) (2 points so less favourable to the rozza's). So that is my two cents worth.
If you understood it, great. If you didn't, just ignore it!!!!
James
I heard in England they don't bother pulling over people for stop sign tickets or other misc. traffic misdemanors. I heard they now use cameras which take pictures of your license number and they mail you the ticket to your home/ apartment.