2012-2013 BOSS 302

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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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OEM shifter bushing

I had the Energy Suspension's shifter bushing (part#4.1134 cost about $16)
installed on Friday BEFORE the ECR/Five Star Ford Track day.
NO missed shifts ALL day long even in 90+ degrees heat and after several sessions.
So anyone want to fix their shifter WITHOUT replacing their OEM shifter should look into this. I bought my bushing @ Dallas Mustang (see Archie) and installed @ Five Star Ford in Plano, TX (see Corey)

See latest 2013 Mustang GT video, only grip was the shifter into 3rd gear:


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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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Unfortunately that's not going to fix the lockout issue on the tranny. I have the Steeda shifter bracket and bushing and while it did firm up the shifting it did not solve the lockout at redline on track especially from second to third.

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...?prod=4%2E1134
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 DOT 0
Unfortunately that's not going to fix the lockout issue on the tranny. I have the Steeda shifter bracket and bushing and while it did firm up the shifting it did not solve the lockout at redline on track especially from second to third.

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...?prod=4%2E1134

Ditto.
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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I have not been locked out since I installed my MGW. I was getting consistent lockout from 2-3 with the stock shifter. My guess is that the MGW redesign on the bottom end of the shifter is alleviating the problem.

The steeda is like other shifters and only covers the top half...
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thevidon
I have not been locked out since I installed my MGW. I was getting consistent lockout from 2-3 with the stock shifter. My guess is that the MGW redesign on the bottom end of the shifter is alleviating the problem.
Was this driving around town or on a race track? Mine shifts perfectly around town even at high RPM's but doesn't shift well on a track.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Was this driving around town or on a race track? Mine shifts perfectly around town even at high RPM's but doesn't shift well on a track.
Sorry I dont road race my car. I'm sure there is another MGW owner who does though and can chime in.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by thevidon

Sorry I dont road race my car. I'm sure there is another MGW owner who does though and can chime in.
I have an Mgw shifter but have not been able to get on the track. I will to u I suspect u won't suffer lockout issues because all bushings in the Mgw kit are hard nylon bushings so lockout which is caused by the twist and torquing of the engine/transmission should no play a role due to the Mgw shifter box should torque with the transmission and should always be lined up. There is no play in the bushings so where the transmission goes the shifter box will go with it do everything should stay aligned. I will let you know as soon as I get on the track to confirm it though.

FYI the stock shifter assembly is all rubber everywhere on all mounting points so lockout is easily more common.

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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gregtommy
I have an Mgw shifter but have not been able to get on the track. I will to u I suspect u won't suffer lockout issues because all bushings in the Mgw kit are hard nylon bushings so lockout which is caused by the twist and torquing of the engine/transmission should no play a role due to the Mgw shifter box should torque with the transmission and should always be lined up. There is no play in the bushings so where the transmission goes the shifter box will go with it do everything should stay aligned. I will let you know as soon as I get on the track to confirm it though.

FYI the stock shifter assembly is all rubber everywhere on all mounting points so lockout is easily more common.
Yeah - I think theres a lot of people who are fighting to not have buyers remorse over going with other shifters instead of the MGW so they keep looking for reasons to justify their purchases.

Coming from a purely logical business/economics perspective - why on earth would MGW redesign the entire base of the shifter if it wasn't making a functional difference? They would be way better off going the quick/easy route the other vendors took and selling it cheaper. Just my 2c.....

Until I hear from someone with an MGW who is still suffering lockout I am calling this problem solved.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thevidon
Yeah - I think theres a lot of people who are fighting to not have buyers remorse over going with other shifters instead of the MGW so they keep looking for reasons to justify their purchases.

Coming from a purely logical business/economics perspective - why on earth would MGW redesign the entire base of the shifter if it wasn't making a functional difference? They would be way better off going the quick/easy route the other vendors took and selling it cheaper. Just my 2c.....

Until I hear from someone with an MGW who is still suffering lockout I am calling this problem solved.
There's been a couple of members here that have the MGW and it did not resolve the lock out problem when tracking their cars. That's why I'm asking if you guys have tracked your cars. Mine shifts perfectly around town and at redline shifts. But tracking your car increases the heat and loads in the tranny that you'll never see on the street. I have no doubt the MGW is a terrific shifter and I'm probably going to buy one but saying it solves all the problems when you haven't really stressed it is not the full story. Just because you don't have issues doesn't mean the issue is solved for everyone.

I've seen the MGW in person before it was installed and IMO the largest area of improvement is the shifter bracket design. There is no movement with their design and very little if any movement with an aftermarket bracket. The shifter is one of not the only problem. Other issues effecting this are binding inside the transmission under excess heat and load, the clutch at the higher RPM's the Boss has along with more HP and torque at those higher RPM's, the clutch springs unable to handle the higher RPM's and the wimpy clutch line and slave cylinder.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 5 DOT 0
There's been a couple of members here that have the MGW and it did not resolve the lock out problem when tracking their cars. That's why I'm asking if you guys have tracked your cars. Mine shifts perfectly around town and at redline shifts. But tracking your car increases the heat and loads in the tranny that you'll never see on the street. I have no doubt the MGW is a terrific shifter and I'm probably going to buy one but saying it solves all the problems when you haven't really stressed it is not the full story. Just because you don't have issues doesn't mean the issue is solved for everyone.

I've seen the MGW in person before it was installed and IMO the largest area of improvement is the shifter bracket design. There is no movement with their design and very little if any movement with an aftermarket bracket. The shifter is one of not the only problem. Other issues effecting this are binding inside the transmission under excess heat and load, the clutch at the higher RPM's the Boss has along with more HP and torque at those higher RPM's, the clutch springs unable to handle the higher RPM's and the wimpy clutch line and slave cylinder.
It will be something I will have to get back to you on. Mine might not be the perfect poster child anyway since I am running a stage 2+ spec clutch so I have refined it that area as well. Anyway when I do have data I will be sure to report back and hopefully have a little success.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JPC
I had the Energy Suspension's shifter bushing (part#4.1134 cost about $16)
installed on Friday BEFORE the ECR/Five Star Ford Track day.
NO missed shifts ALL day long even in 90+ degrees heat and after several sessions.
So anyone want to fix their shifter WITHOUT replacing their OEM shifter should look into this. I bought my bushing @ Dallas Mustang (see Archie) and installed @ Five Star Ford in Plano, TX (see Corey)

See latest 2013 Mustang GT video, only grip was the shifter into 3rd gear:


2013 Ford Mustang GT: The Budget Boss 302 Laguna Seca? - Ignition Episode 22 - YouTube
Any increased noise or vibration?
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by thevidon
Sorry I dont road race my car. I'm sure there is another MGW owner who does though and can chime in.
I had issues on track with the stock shifter. 1/4 mile.

Installed the MGW over the winter.

First track runs with the MGW had zero lock out 2-3, rate of failure before was 50%.

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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TMSBOSS

I had issues on track with the stock shifter. 1/4 mile.

Installed the MGW over the winter.

First track runs with the MGW had zero lock out 2-3, rate of failure before was 50%.

I wonder what else u could to to tweak it without putting a tremec in (figured I'd throw that in since that isn't the easy to do fix)
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gregtommy
I wonder what else u could to to tweak it without putting a tremec in (figured I'd throw that in since that isn't the easy to do fix)
I have ordered a new clutch And brake lines I will install when I return to the states in August.

Also considering removing the helper spring on the clutch pedal. A no cost mod. If I see no benefit I will put it back in.

I have been happy with the clutch/tranny since the MGW and TSB for the trans fluid. Still looking for a different feel from the clutch.

New brake and clutch lines along with upgrade to Dot 4 fluids. Can't hurt.

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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 65sohc
Any increased noise or vibration?
no

the feel is exactly the same as before now with no missed shifts :-)
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JPC
no

the feel is exactly the same as before now with no missed shifts :-)
Is it also secured with zip ties?
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