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Old 3/7/11, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by StillIntense
I was talking to one of the drivers at Rehagen Racing two weeks ago. He stated that he actually preferred the regular Boss over the Laguna Seca. He said that the LS felt like "too long out front", implying to me that he could induce oversteer in the regular Boss more easily. Interesting...
Could this be a case of changing the shock settings on the LS?

MT was the first I heard someone mention specifically which settings were used on their run. iirc, MT even mentioned a half setting, so I suppose they are infinitely variable between one and five ????? I thought there were only five settings with stops at each setting.
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Wow those are great numbers. I'm a big Porsche fan and would love a Porsche 911 Carrera GT3. I've mentioned before that I think of my Boss as a poor mans GT3 and the LS as a GT3 RS. A couple of friends of mine have a 2005 Carrera 4S and 2008 Carrera S so it's important for me to at least be able to keep up. I don't think it's going to be a problem. Here are the numbers from the 2011 Porsche Carrera GTS:

Price as tested $115,200
Vehicle layout Rear-engine, RWD, 2-pass, 2-door coupe
Engine 3.8L/408-hp /310-lb-ft DOHC 24-valve flat-6
Transmission 7-speed twin-clutch auto.
Curb weight (f/r dist) 3272 lb (38 / 62%)
0-60 mph 3.9 sec
Quarter mile 12.2 sec @ 113.4 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 105 ft
Lateral acceleration 1.00 g (avg)
MT Figure Eight 24.3 sec @ 0.76 g (avg)
EPA city/hwy fuel econ 19/26 mpg

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Holy hannah, I'm still trying to get my mind around the Boss numbers. That car hauls it...unreal really.
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Originally Posted by StillIntense
Holy hannah, I'm still trying to get my mind around the Boss numbers. That car hauls it...unreal really.
No doubt. I'm just in awe right now. I really really can't wait to hook up with the Porsche club at BIR this summer. There were quite a few (albeit some grudgingly) compliments for how fast the GT500 got around the track. The Boss could be a real contender for some of the faster ones that can actually drive their cars All in all they're a great group, so it will be fun for sure to put down some lap times.
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I hope tests by other magazines have similar relative results when compared to other vehicles they test.

i.e. The Boss is about the same % quicker/faster than the others.
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Originally Posted by StillIntense
I was talking to one of the drivers at Rehagen Racing two weeks ago. He stated that he actually preferred the regular Boss over the Laguna Seca. He said that the LS felt like "too long out front", implying to me that he could induce oversteer in the regular Boss more easily. Interesting...
I wonder if it's the larger rear stabilizer bar?
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Another cool hands-on review.

http://autos.sympatico.ca/reviews/82...aptain-america
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cloud9: same feelings here, only with the Vette people at Carolina Motorsports Park. I plan on dishing it out, in a big frigging way.
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Originally Posted by StillIntense
cloud9: same feelings here, only with the Vette people at Carolina Motorsports Park. I plan on dishing it out, in a big frigging way.
LOL don't get me started on the bowtie boys You see the red C6 in my Avatar? That's heading into turn 2 on the South course at Autobahn. I had been running him down the first lap after getting held up by the starter. Let's just say about 3 turns later he's mowing the lawn

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Originally Posted by cloud9
LOL don't get me started on the bowtie boys You see the red C6 in my Avatar? That's heading into turn 2 on the South course at Autobahn. I had been running him down the first lap after getting held up by the starter. Let's just say about 3 turns later he's mowing the lawn
I can't wait to do the same thing to my friends M3!
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Originally Posted by 5 DOT 0
Wow those are great numbers. I'm a big Porsche fan and would love a Porsche 911 Carrera GT3. I've mentioned before that I think of my Boss as a poor mans GT3 and the LS as a GT3 RS. A couple of friends of mine have a 2005 Carrera 4S and 2008 Carrera S so it's important for me to at least be able to keep up. I don't think it's going to be a problem. ...
Hey Rick, same here as far as Porsches go. I was hoping for performance at least as good as my Spyder - Car and Driver's Best Handling Car in America 2010.

Here are the Motor Trend numbers from the 2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder:

Price as tested $72,570
Vehicle layout Mid-engine, RWD, 2-pass, 2-door convertible
Engine 3.4L/320-hp /273-lb-ft DOHC 24-valve flat-6
Transmission 7-speed twin-clutch auto.
Curb weight (f/r dist) 2940 lb (47 / 53%)
0-60 mph 4.3 sec
Quarter mile 12.7 sec @ 109.9 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 101 ft
Lateral acceleration 1.05 g (avg)
MT Figure Eight 24.2 sec @ 0.84 g (avg)
EPA city/hwy fuel econ 19/26 mpg
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12.3 and 115.8....Very impressive numbers there!!! I knew it had a 115 in it somewhere!
Now, bolt on some stickies,and set the launch at 4000.....
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Originally Posted by Dig-It Racing
Hey Rick, same here as far as Porsches go. I was hoping for performance at least as good as my Spyder - Car and Driver's Best Handling Car in America 2010.

Here are the Motor Trend numbers from the 2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder:

Price as tested $72,570
Vehicle layout Mid-engine, RWD, 2-pass, 2-door convertible
Engine 3.4L/320-hp /273-lb-ft DOHC 24-valve flat-6
Transmission 7-speed twin-clutch auto.
Curb weight (f/r dist) 2940 lb (47 / 53%)
0-60 mph 4.3 sec
Quarter mile 12.7 sec @ 109.9 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 101 ft
Lateral acceleration 1.05 g (avg)
MT Figure Eight 24.2 sec @ 0.84 g (avg)

EPA city/hwy fuel econ 19/26 mpg
Looks like it could be track dependent. With the Spyders weight, lateral acceleration and braking advantages, it will probably win out on shorter tight tracks, but the Boss might outrun it on bigger tracks.
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Those times are right there with a 2009-11 base Corvette?
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If you watch the video on page 2 of the MT test you will notice how badly the rumble strips upset the solid rear axle...NOT! So much for only being able to handle a glass smooth race track.
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Originally Posted by PTRocks
From review.

The Boss 302 is so easy to drive near its limits, it will make track day heroes out of its owners. I have no doubt that well-driven Boss 302s will embarrass Corvettes, Porsches and Ferraris.
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Originally Posted by LQQK

From review.
I liked that part too!
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Originally Posted by cloud9
Looks like it could be track dependent. With the Spyders weight, lateral acceleration and braking advantages, it will probably win out on shorter tight tracks, but the Boss might outrun it on bigger tracks.
I took the Spyder to VIR last October. I wanted more than 320 bhp / 273 lb-ft in the straights. Turns and curves were an absolute blast. I'm hoping the BOSS is close to the same.
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There's a bunch of GT500 owners posting away with their feathers ruffled. Not a single mention on the Audi R8 forums. I don't belong to any BMW boards, I wonder if there's any mention of the Motor Trend test results there?
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Motor Trends Laguna Seca Lap Times

Originally Posted by 5 DOT 0
Wow those are great numbers. I'm a big Porsche fan and would love a Porsche 911 Carrera GT3. I've mentioned before that I think of my Boss as a poor mans GT3 and the LS as a GT3 RS. A couple of friends of mine have a 2005 Carrera 4S and 2008 Carrera S so it's important for me to at least be able to keep up. I don't think it's going to be a problem.
1st: 2010 Dodge Viper ACR - 1:33.92

2008 Dodge Viper ACR - 1:35.12


2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 - 1:35.83


2007 Porsche 911 GT3 - 1:39.57


2009 Nissan GT-R - 1:40.45


2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG - 1:40.74


2009 Audi R8 - 1:40.75


2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - 1:40.92


2009 Audi R8 R Tronic - 1:40.92


2008 Porsche 911 Turbo - 1:42.51


2009 Porsche Cayman S PDK - 1:42.95


2008 BMW M3 - 1:42.96


2009 Cadillac CTS-V - 1:43.85


2010 Ford Shelby GT500 - 1:44.32


2008 Shelby GT500KR - 1:44.72


2009 Jaguar XFR - 1:45.37


2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS - 1:45.72


2007 Lotus Exige S - 1:45.82


2009 BMW 135i - 1:46.01


2010 Nissan NISMO 370Z - 1:46.53


Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/features/laguna_lap/112_0902_laguna_lap_introduction/index.html

Looks like the Boss would be 5th fastest. And the best bang for the buck by a long shot.

Now if we can only get Ford to start shipping already.


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