For sh*ts and giggles... release a drag pack GT350H. Not for Hertz, more for Hurts... That's where most original GT350H's ended up, on the strip and beat to sh*t.

Make a handful a year unless people go absolutely mad for them.

 

We'll see one model with two trims possibly. The other variants might be undertaken by Ford Racing, not SVT. Wishful thinking at best.

 

Why not a Boss 429 or a Boss 351.
Wish Ford would bring them back.
I held off in 2013 on a GT500 thinking Ford would bring one of these two units back & so far Ford did not.
So I pulled the trigger & ordered a 2014 Shelby GT500[Ruby-Red]
Waitting for my unit.
Still praying the Boss 429 or Boss 351 would come back.
Heck Ford could use the 5.8L Engine & nartural asperiate it & have the Boss351.
We can still Dream!!!!

 

Yeah but those both clear 4200 + easily... If the new mustang is coming in significantly lighter than the current car. Then you dont need 600-700 supercharged hp to make it fast. if the car comes in around 3300 and they go with an upgraded Boss engine pushing close to 500hp then it will run all over the ZL1 and I would take the SVT name over Shelby. Shelby had its run, time to move one.

 

I wish Ford would bring back the Boss 429 & the Boss 351.
I waited in 2013 on ordering a Shelby GT500 thinking that this would happen.
Well it did not & I orderd a 2014 Shelby GT500 & waitting for my unit.
Still praying that the Boss 429 or Boss 351 will be built.
Ford could have used the 5.8L & natural asperiate it & have the Boss 351.
Hech use the 7.0L engine & have the Boss 429.
Why not utlize this & bring back the Boss 429 & 351 & just watch the sales on these two units in the mustang line.
Come on Ford just Built them,& listen too your buyers.

 

There are advantages to separate Ford Racing and SVT products... Each product is on a separate budget which would ensure maximum quality. SVT could either stick to the GT500 or handle the street versions of the GT350, GT500 and GT500KR (KR will share the 350's suspension so why not). While Ford Racing concentrates on the R's (GT-R, GT350R) and Super Snake (based loosely on the turn key to replace the Cobra Jet).


All kinds of fun possibilities and sharing these small projects between internal divisions will utilize different budgets... Maybe this is why the Boss 302 was so good...

As for the Boss 429 and 351. I think all those Mach 1, Bullitt, Boss linage and Cobra Jet's need to reserve themselves for special occasions. The 429 and 351 are going to be harder to do as long as displacement remains dictated. The Mach 1 has special edition written all over it... Lets give it a try on an anniversary year. But look at the possible lineup that can be sprung from the GT, GT350, GT500 naming scheme. You have the R's, KR and Super Snake. With all those possibilities and just pure marketing streamlining, the product looks great and very marketable. It is consistent just as any other world class sports coupe/car. And lot's of flexibility and heritage comes from each of those names as additional packages. Lets face it, to have the ultimate Mustang, it might drive the cost way up... Making a base halo car with two equal options that give you one or the other is a nice strategy. Optimize the GT500 for what YOU need it for. Don't be forced to pay for extra coolers and track stuff when you drag race all the time. Why pay for any of the performance stuff when all you want is a GT500.

AND OFFER TRACK WARRANTIES!!! Make each owner/competitor feel as if Ford is in a sponsorship role of an amateur. It would feel like you had factory support for the 1st season. That would feel WONDERFUL!!

Hell, don't even call it a warranty... Option it as Competition Factory Support. 1 year/15,000 miles and maybe charge a little for it ($900-$1900). It covers drivetrain, suspension and supporting systems. No body damage, consumables or wheel/tire wear. However, a service discount for someone that has a Ford "R" account could get discounts during the season on your typical service items. Talk about stimulating a segment.

 

Long story short...

If everyone just starts agreeing on the:

GT
GT-R
GT350
GT350R
GT500
GT500KR
GT500SS

Then speculation becomes rumor, rumor becomes research, research becomes development, development becomes production...

 

Too many.

Base (V6)
Base Premium (V6 or I4 turbo)
GT (5.0 V8)
GT Premium (5.0 V8)
GT350 (5.2 V8)
GT350R (5.2 V8)

The differences between the base and R models being lack of a rear seat, all coolers as standard equipment, better suspension (hopefully MR), better aero, etc.

For the other models, have an SVO package for the I4 turbo with a more aggressive gear, bigger brakes and stiffer suspension. The GT should have a track package again with the same basic upgrades as the current one.

 

I like the sound of that lineup, Steve, and it sounds plausible.

I'm interested to see if the I4 Turbo is the entry level but I suspect, like you pointed out there, that it will actually sit above the V6. If that's the case, I'd expect it to sport the 350bhp that has been indicated it'll have in the RS Focus. Calling it an SVO would be a nice (80's) retro touch, too........assuming it's not actually an SVT product (I'm assuming the GT350 will be the only true SVT Mustang?)

Me? I'll take a '15 GT Premium and a '16 GT350 (no R for me, I need the back seats for the kids)

 

I went off the Fusion lineup as an example
They have a NA motor as the base, and the Ecoboost as the option but with similar specs.

 

I would bet the V6 is standard, turbo 4 will be a $995 premium over the V6 but less HP and better MPG(just like it is in every other ford now). Then V8 on top.

 

This.

This.

And this. Been saying this for years now! Haha. We'll see soon enough...

 

I agree. A sub-$1000 option to move to a lighter and more fuel efficient option makes sense.

 

But will a turbo 4 with intercooler and plumbing be lighter than the 3.7?

 

More than likely. Lopping two cylinders off and going to an inline setup from a V will reduce weight. Plastic plumbing won't weigh much, and with a smaller turbo and small intercooler, you will add some weight back, but not all.

 

Just haven't seen any weight numbers. Would be awesome if they give the turbo 4 more power. Would love to see a light weight SVO

 

I'm sure I've probably missed something, but what's the deal with this 5.2 V8?

 

How much does the aluminum 5.8 from GT500 weigh without the supercharger? And what do you think it would develop (hp & tq) NA?

 

You're thinking the wrong direction here...

 

The turbo four will make more power than the V6 along with the premium price wise. 300 for the V6, 350 for the turbo, 450 for the V8.