There was a post over on TTAC that claims they have supplier info that detailed a 5.2L NA motor for the next SVT vehicle, along with a few other details. Obviously, we have no way of knowing yet, but it seems like the strongest story to date.

 

I don't see that happening. It's there for fuel economy, not performance.

 

I'm just thinking about what Ford will do with the 5.8? Doesn't seem reasonable to develop an engine for just a couple years.

Look at GM and what they are doing with 6.2 liters

 

They're going to let it die, just like they did with the Terminator...

 

So far I am mostly seeing Mustang model designations with GT in them. Is Ford not going to come with a macho name like Hellcat ? Ford needs stronger model names.

 

Wasn't really an new engine they developed, just tweaked an existing one.

What is GM doing with 6.2's? Making the same power as Ford's smaller 5.0? Putting a blower on it and making less power than Ford's smaller 5.8? While GM's 7.0L is a pretty good engine it's rather sad that it only makes 505HP, which is only about 60 more than the little 5.0 in the Boss.

 

I very much doubt there will be a Challenger/Cuda model called Hellcat. That sounds like a project name for the engine.......think Coyote.....Roadrunner.

I'm sure Ford have a new "nickname" for the 5.2 (assuming the rumours of its existence are actually true).......but that doesn't mean the model will be named after it.

 

The rumor mill says it's called "Voodoo."

 

Haha, nice. Where'd you find that?

 

As in "evil"?

 

Good question?

SVT Cobra

• 1993: 5,100 (includes 107 R models)
• 1994: 6,009 (coupes & verts)
• 1995: 5,258 (coupes, verts, & 250 R models)
• 1996: 10,003 (coupes & verts)
• 1997: 10,049 (coupes & verts)
• 1998: 8,654 (coupes & verts)
• 1999: 8,095 (coupes & verts)
• 2000: 300 (R model only)
• 2001: 7,251 (coupes & verts)
• 2002: 100 (export only?)
• 2003: 13,476 (coupes & verts)
• 2004: 5,664 (coupes & verts)

Total SVT Cobra Production: 79,959 (6,663 avg)

Shelby GT500

• 2007: 10,844
• 2008: 8,583
• 2009: 3,559
• 2010: 4,458
• 2011: 5,026
• 2012: 4,834
• 2013: 4,885
• 2014: ??

Total Production: 42,189 ( 7,031 avg)

I wonder how each model compares when weighted by regular Mustang sales and I wonder how other SEs such as the Boss, Mach 1, and Bullitt might have affected the sales of the Cobra and GT500

I suppose you could drop the 557 completion models as they are not strictly production models and the dubious 100 export only models as well if one wanted to get picky about Cobra production numbers since the Shelby neither had a competition model or some murky export model.

 

The 02s all went to Australia, IIRC. Weren't they RHD too?

 

Thanks for pulling those - shows the name didn't really do a ton for sales, though the fact that the sales maintained even with the price increase is impressive I suppose.

 

They would have to have been converted to RHD in order to be road legal in Australia, IIRC only preproduction stuff with a manufacturers plate can operate otherwise (such as the development cars for the 5th gen Camaro).

 

That's why I'm wondering how the Shelby and Cobra did if you weight them by penetration into regular Mustang sales. Its easy to say the numbers are in favor of the Cobra name but it could be possible that the Shelby captured a greater number of sales percentage wise.

Also its worth considering Ford's sales strategy for each model and how did the cost and relative performance of the regular Mustang effect the sales of the Cobra and GT500.

For example;

Prior to at least the 1999 Mustang GT, if you wanted a performance Mustang, the Cobra was the only game in town if you were a Ford guy and wanted to go toe to toe with GM.

All stuff to consider rather than making a blanket judgment as again for example a few boned years of Cobra production give a lower average compared to the GT500 which has been on sale half the time but posts a higher average sales number which could lead one to believe that slow and steady wins the race as average GT500 sales have been higher.

In any event when I'm not feeling so lazy, maybe I'll see how each car penetrated into regular Mustang sales.

 

They were converted to RHD in Australia by Tickford Vehicle Engineering, now known as FPV.

 

Mustang is a strong name. Why name it twice?

 

Always love seeing Powered by Ford when I lift a hood.

 

Boom

 

There's too many factors to really know - the car is more expensive than the previous gen but it also offered a bigger jump in horsepower than before too (at least until 2011). '04 GT made 260 HP and Cobra made 390 HP (50% increase) while '07 GT made 300 HP while Shelby made 500 ( 66% increase). So was it the power or the name, or both? Who knows!

Anecdotally, the Shelby has attracted an older crowd better than the previous Cobra, it seems like. That's partially because the price makes it unattainable for most younger guys but I bet the appeal is up too, if it was measurable.