Again, Steve, I’m guessing this is why they’ve upgraded the warranty on the 2015 F-150s. I am still working on getting more information. This still won’t change the warranty on the 2015 Mustangs.

Deysha

 

Thank you for the reply Deysha.

 

I hope its taken care of too... the more I think about the F150 warranty though, the more I scratch my head- in my opinion ford could give 5 year adhesion warranty on all aluminum panels at no 'cost' to ford if they are confident the problems are finally corrected. by not extending the aluminum 5 yr adhesion warranty to other models, I worry there is a reason- warranty reasons are ALWAYS cost- it just comes down to whether management has the same confidence in aluminum mustang prep/paint as they have on F150...

the question to me is simple:

"why does F150 get 5 yr paint adhesion to aluminum panel warranty specifically on its 'features' list, but mustang does not?"

the aluminum hoods/fenders , if as good as F150, should deserve same warranty- especially with the current track record of failures. If not as good as F150, then WTF???

the only warranty on mustang is still 5 yr perforation only, which typically wont ever occur on aluminum... either somebody 'forgot' the mustangs aluminum/adhesion issues, or they are still not confident it has been corrected- I doubt much gets forgotten in the legalese/warranty wording... hopefully very soon we will hear ford adding 5 yr adhesion for aluminum fleet-wide: its the right thing to do... time to write some more letters...

 

This is just speculation on my part, but perhaps the reason Ford offers it's 5 year adhesion warranty on the F-150, is because all body panels are aluminum

Therefore if the aluminum body panels for the F-150 are as good as Ford claims ? They should most definitely include the very same adhesion warranty for all models, including the Mustang

 

but aluminum panels arent something new to ford...entire vehicle, yes, but aluminum hoods and tailgates are old news- I dont know if THE aluminum material/process is unique to F150, but I kinda hope not- a decade of failures on mustang said either they fixed the problem or revised the material/process for F150... lets all hope ford has the same confidence in mustang hoods/fenders- in any event, the 'perforation only' is about useless for aluminum, and was revised for F150, but not other models- I'm hoping the warranty authors just dropped the ball, but afraid maybe not- if the mustang has the same old processing, in 2-3 yrs this forum will be full of frustrated folks again. Ford did a wonderful thing standing behind F150 adhesion 5 yrs- lets hope they do the same on the rest of their products with aluminum panels.

yes- but it depends on if the same material/process as new F150 has been applied to other aluminum products like mustang hoods- if not, bad ford/ if same, then ford could offer same warranty... so has mustang been fixed or not? if so, wheres the warranty... if enough keep pestering Ford, I'm pretty confident we can get them to add the adhesion warranty to mustang aluminum panels also... I do still hope ford management wants to show confidence in their products, and if so, adding the aluminum/adhesion to mustang warranty shouldnt cost them a penny... only reason for not adding would be a lack of confidence right? lets hope we see a little revision soon

 

You’re welcome, Steve.

Deysha

 

According to the story in this link, the new Mustang front fenders are definitely also made out of aluminum.


http://gas2.org/2014/06/02/how-much-...mustang-weigh/

 

yes they are- and the red one at the auto show had a small area of bubbled paint on its fender, nowhere near a seam or bolt- just noticed something else VERY odd too: the F150 used double washers on all fender bolts- assuming special coated/alloyed to prevent galvanic corrosion, but Mustang still uses single washers?

hard to see in this picture, but the paint was loose/bubbled here:
mustang fender bubblingsmall by ford4v429, on Flickr

heres the area on a new f150 that sure looked like same old corrosion to me, but note double washers used... a guy at the booth said he thought it was galvanic corrosion, I kinda agreed, but read more about Ford using special fasteners to prevent galvanic corrosion- yet I see different washers utilized on Mustang? perhaps due to steel core support on Mustang, but still- the contact to the aluminum would be the concern... when I had our hoods off, the steel hinges were against aluminum, didnt see any corrosion there- but makes me wonder... still reading/learning about aluminum-steel interaction... heres the auto show f150 bolts:
f150 bubblingsmall by ford4v429, on Flickr

after learning ford was offering 5 yr adhesion on f150, I was gonna take down these pics, but after reading up on mustangs lack of equivalent warranty on its aluminum panels, might need to keep them around a while- at least till I can check out some recently produced(like last 2 weeks- after getting response from Ford on the pictures/getting them to the right qc departments to watch for this stuff)... still cautiously optimistic the newer f150s will be vastly improved over the initial production run as processes even out- but only time will tell... ford offering 5 yr adhesion is good enough for me to be comfortable they are gonna be watching closer, but I still need to see a few nicely finished ones- and we NEED to pester Ford about 5 yr adhesion across the product line on all aluminum panels- there is really zero reason for them not to do this, unless they havent fixed the issues on any models other than f150...

 

Especially after the decade long issues with the S197, Ford at the very least should do the right thing by using the very same aluminum material/process on the F-150 with all models, especially the Mustang !


Tim ! I could not agree more and if Ford is truly standing by the new aluminum material/process they're now using on the F-150 ? They should not only use the very same materials on all models across the board, but also back it up by applying the F-150's 5 year adhesion warranty on all production models including the Mustang as well

 

Agreed!! It would insure confidence to Ford loyalists and potential Mustang buyers that this aluminum corrosion issue is remedied once and for all. At the end of the day it's all about backing up your product and customer satisfaction.

 

You're exactly 100% spot on and couldn't agree more