Ford / SVT testing at Sebring on Friday
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Perception, when people buy german goods, its with a reputation of excellent engineering and high quality despite whatever the truth might be so they are able to command a higher cost.
I've talked about this before here and while not a car brand, I met a guy who wouldn't buy Michelin tires unless they were manufactured in France - I told him Michelin's tires are mostly made with an automated process so that the quality is the same throughout the process no matter where and Michelin can source them wherever they can take advantage of lower labor costs.
His reply; "If they dont make the machines in France they arent as good as the tires made in France so I only buy Michelins made in France"
Being such specialized equipment, I'm sure there are only a few places where you can get it, I would have loved to have been able to tell the guy that Michelin gets there molds from "X" in country "X"and the vulcanizing equipement from "X" in country "X" and so on. I'm sure he would have told me I was full of crap.
I've talked about this before here and while not a car brand, I met a guy who wouldn't buy Michelin tires unless they were manufactured in France - I told him Michelin's tires are mostly made with an automated process so that the quality is the same throughout the process no matter where and Michelin can source them wherever they can take advantage of lower labor costs.
His reply; "If they dont make the machines in France they arent as good as the tires made in France so I only buy Michelins made in France"
Being such specialized equipment, I'm sure there are only a few places where you can get it, I would have loved to have been able to tell the guy that Michelin gets there molds from "X" in country "X"and the vulcanizing equipement from "X" in country "X" and so on. I'm sure he would have told me I was full of crap.
There comes a time when all German technologies trickle down to even an entry level Ford Focus... Most improvements being rumored for the 2015 Mustang is nothing that far advanced... At least not enough to increase the MSRP of a GT to M3 levels. It will cost more than a 2014 GT, but it won't be unreasonable.
Had a friend look at the video, and he said he could barely make out the faint sound of a BOV just before the tire screeching going into the turn...
I personally don't hear it. Just curious if anyone else hears it, or if the OP remembers hearing anything in person?
I personally don't hear it. Just curious if anyone else hears it, or if the OP remembers hearing anything in person?
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Had a friend look at the video, and he said he could barely make out the faint sound of a BOV just before the tire screeching going into the turn...
I personally don't hear it. Just curious if anyone else hears it, or if the OP remembers hearing anything in person?
I personally don't hear it. Just curious if anyone else hears it, or if the OP remembers hearing anything in person?
I just remember the thing being quiet as hell; tremendously quieter than the ZL1 and Carerra S they were testing too.
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Yep and their V8's made the same power as the current V6. All manufacturers are going with forced induction easy way to make big power numbers and still get decent MPG's
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Who said anything about big power numbers? I love how people assume that since the '13-'14 GT500 has 662 that the next gen model will surely have at least that if not more.
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And where did I say anything about them trying to make more than the 662 in the current GT500? SVT has added boost to make big numbers just like other manufacturers. Easier to add a blower and add 200 hp and maintain decent mileage. A lot harder and more expensive to make those types of numbers with bigger cams, more rpms, more compression.
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And where did I say anything about them trying to make more than the 662 in the current GT500? SVT has added boost to make big numbers just like other manufacturers. Easier to add a blower and add 200 hp and maintain decent mileage. A lot harder and more expensive to make those types of numbers with bigger cams, more rpms, more compression.
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I can't see them going smaller cubes and higher rpm to stay above the GT. And I don't see the GT going under 400. I'd love to see them go for a high rev engine. But I know what I've had to put into the 5.0 in my 98 Cobra to get there. Just don't see SVT being able to get there and meet durability and warranty requirements. They already limit the Boss for that
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Keep in mind how large the gap is between the current GT/BOSS and SVT vehicle.
That is a BIG canyon sized gap.
Even if the GT were to go up (I wouldn't expect it to skyrocket here)
and the SVT come down, the gap is still pretty large.
That is a BIG canyon sized gap.
Even if the GT were to go up (I wouldn't expect it to skyrocket here)
and the SVT come down, the gap is still pretty large.
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