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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 02:07 PM
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I have the 300 6 in my 1991 F150. I call it a 'tractor' motor
Ironically not far from the truth. The Ford 300 inline six motor is still being produced for agriculture applications. In other words, tractor motors. It has, however, also been developed as a full on racing engine in years past at which point it achieved horsepower levels as high as 1000.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 02:25 PM
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I always enjoy BT4's posts, good stuff. Thanks BT4.

Unlike lassered, however, I personally would really enjoy a good turbo 6 in the Mustang. I recently saw the numbers on the new Raptor with the 3.5 ecoboost. 450 hp and 435 lb ft of torque. I don't care what anyone says, that's going to make for some serious performance in the Mustang. I would buy a V6 Mustang that offered that engine. I love the sound of a good V8 as much as the next guy. Okay maybe not as much as Al because he really loves the sound lol. No seriously, it wouldn't bother me to drive an ecoboost six banger Mustang with that kind of performance. I have to wonder if the lower weight and center of gravity might help improve the handling.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 3point7
I always enjoy BT4's posts, good stuff. Thanks BT4. Unlike lassered, however, I personally would really enjoy a good turbo 6 in the Mustang. I recently saw the numbers on the new Raptor with the 3.5 ecoboost. 450 hp and 435 lb ft of torque. I don't care what anyone says, that's going to make for some serious performance in the Mustang. I would buy a V6 Mustang that offered that engine. I love the sound of a good V8 as much as the next guy. Okay maybe not as much as Al because he really loves the sound lol. No seriously, it wouldn't bother me to drive an ecoboost six banger Mustang with that kind of performance. I have to wonder if the lower weight and center of gravity might help improve the handling.
It would handle the same. The plumbing for intercoolers, the intercooler itself and the twin turbos would negate any weight savings over the V8. It would be quicker, yes, and Ford might be able to tune it to produce less emissions than the V8, but it would still be a premium offering, thus also negating any fuel economy boost. Which is exactly how the 3.5TT is in the F-150 too.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 03:39 PM
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It would handle the same. The plumbing for intercoolers, the intercooler itself and the twin turbos would negate any weight savings over the V8. It would be quicker, yes, and Ford might be able to tune it to produce less emissions than the V8, but it would still be a premium offering, thus also negating any fuel economy boost. Which is exactly how the 3.5TT is in the F-150 too.
Hey man, knock it off with the Johnny Rain Cloud routine. lol
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 06:11 PM
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Patrick ! Here's another alternative and this also includes Rob, Al and Myself..

We just keep our current Mustang V8's and say the heck with the gov't CAFE requirements..

There's always the aftermarket and Ford racing to keep our beloved V8 Mustangs alive for many years to come as in both parts and crate engines

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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Patrick ! Here's another alternative and this also includes Rob, Al and Myself.. We just keep our current Mustang V8's and say the heck with the gov't CAFE requirements.. There's always the aftermarket and Ford racing to keep our beloved V8 Mustangs alive for many years to come as in both parts and crate engines
Ahaha I suppose. Honestly after this one, it's going to be a Fox body race car build or a classic cruiser. I need a truck though. House, family vehicle, truck. In that order. Then project car.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Patrick ! Here's another alternative and this also includes Rob, Al and Myself..

We just keep our current Mustang V8's and say the heck with the gov't CAFE requirements..

There's always the aftermarket and Ford racing to keep our beloved V8 Mustangs alive for many years to come as in both parts and crate engines
Not me brother, I'm one of those low down, no good, rotten a** V6 owners that's bringing shame to the Mustang name. Just ask Al, lol.

But I'm all for giving the finger to the government. They need to stay out of our business. When I get my Mustang paid off I might consider buying an older model V8 Mustang for a restoration project to become a weekend cruiser.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
Ahaha I suppose. Honestly after this one, it's going to be a Fox body race car build or a classic cruiser. I need a truck though. House, family vehicle, truck. In that order. Then project car.
Sounds like a no brainer to me Patrick
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 07:55 PM
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Not me brother, I'm one of those low down, no good, rotten a** V6 owners that's bringing shame to the Mustang name. Just ask Al, lol.
Oh that's right ! I totally forgot about that Rob, my bad

Originally Posted by 3point7
But I'm all for giving the finger to the government. They need to stay out of our business. When I get my Mustang paid off I might consider buying an older model V8 Mustang for a restoration project to become a weekend cruiser.
As for the Gov't ? I couldn't agree more, as there's definitely more than one way to skin a cat.. In others words giving them the finger for sticking their nose in our business where it doesn't belong..

Seems like you have a really great plan for buying an older V8 model Mustang as a restoration project that you'll be able to enjoy as a weekend cruiser. Plus you'll still have your current V6 as your daily driver, so this way you'll end up having the best of both worlds

I can already picture someone pulling up right beside you in your older V8 Mustang and ask you.. " Does that thing got a Hemi " You'll never guess who it is

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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Oh that's right ! I totally forgot about that Rob, my bad



As for the Gov't ? I couldn't agree more, as there's definitely more than one way to skin a cat.. In others words giving them the finger for sticking their nose in our business where it doesn't belong..

Seems like you have a really great plan for buying an older V8 model Mustang as a restoration project that you'll be able to enjoy as a weekend cruiser. Plus you'll still have your current V6 as your daily driver, so this way you'll end up having the best of both worlds

I can already picture someone pulling up right beside you in your older V8 Mustang and ask you.. " Does that thing got a Hemi " You'll never guess who it is
I restored a 65 once before so I know from experience how expensive a restoration can be. The second time around I think I might go with a 99 to 04 Mustang that hasn't rusted so I don't have to contend with replacing floor pans and frame pieces and gas tanks and on and on. I can just strip everything out of the car, clean the living hell out of it and see if it needs paint and then go from there. Always liked the 99 to 04 look.
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 08:41 PM
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I restored a 65 once before so I know from experience how expensive a restoration can be. The second time around I think I might go with a 99 to 04 Mustang that hasn't rusted so I don't have to contend with replacing floor pans and frame pieces and gas tanks and on and on. I can just strip everything out of the car, clean the living hell out of it and see if it needs paint and then go from there. Always liked the 99 to 04 look.
It really sucks that you weren't able to keep the 65 ? As I'm sure it would be worth quite a bit by now..

I also feel your on the right track about restoring a later model 99-04 Mustang rather than worry about replacing floor pans, body panels, fuel tanks and so forth as well..

I can also say that I would've kept my last Fox body Mustang if I hadn't traded it in for my previous 2005 GT 10 years ago.. It was a 93 SVT Cobra that I also owned for 10 years and had just 31k miles on it..

The more I look back over these last 10 years, the more I realize that I should had kept the Cobra

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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 3point7
I restored a 65 once before so I know from experience how expensive a restoration can be. The second time around I think I might go with a 99 to 04 Mustang that hasn't rusted so I don't have to contend with replacing floor pans and frame pieces and gas tanks and on and on. I can just strip everything out of the car, clean the living hell out of it and see if it needs paint and then go from there. Always liked the 99 to 04 look.
I hated my 00 V6. Though I did have plans to rebuild everything on it with Super Six parts and a T56. My 03 GT, I loved, but it had electrical gremlins.
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 06:57 AM
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Its funny hearing people talk about restoring a 99-04 model. Just seem like it was that long ago.

I guess it good though because all I ever hear about people restoring is the classic mustangs. Its nice hearing about some late models getting some love.
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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The New Edge mustangs are still favorited by many people. It's was a great car. The ones worth holding on to, are usually not in need of restoration though. The Cobras, Cobra R's, and Mach 1's, are mostly kept pristine by their owners. Would probably pick one up soon though. Shouldn't be long before the price starts going back up on these. Already see it happening to clean or special edition Fox bodies.
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
The New Edge mustangs are still favorited by many people. It's was a great car. The ones worth holding on to, are usually not in need of restoration though. The Cobras, Cobra R's, and Mach 1's, are mostly kept pristine by their owners. Would probably pick one up soon though. Shouldn't be long before the price starts going back up on these. Already see it happening to clean or special edition Fox bodies.
Another reason why I should had kept my 93 SVT Cobra.. As it was the only SVT ever built on the Fox body and mine was kept in pristine condition..

IMO the value on these models are the ones that will go up the highest, as 93 was the first/last and only year the Cobra was ever produced on the Fox platform thus considered as more rare than both the SN-95 and New Edge Mustangs..

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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
The New Edge mustangs are still favorited by many people. It's was a great car. The ones worth holding on to, are usually not in need of restoration though. The Cobras, Cobra R's, and Mach 1's, are mostly kept pristine by their owners. Would probably pick one up soon though. Shouldn't be long before the price starts going back up on these. Already see it happening to clean or special edition Fox bodies.
Personally I'd like to find one of the Bullitt cars. Always loved that green color and I wish it was a standard color on the Mustang in general. Not an easy car to find though.
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 02:10 PM
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Another reason why I should had kept my 93 SVT Cobra.. As it was the only SVT ever built on the Fox body and mine was kept in pristine condition..

IMO the value on these models are the ones that will go up the highest, as 93 was the first/last and only year the Cobra was ever produced on the Fox platform thus considered as more rare than both the SN-95 and New Edge Mustangs..
Interesting you should bring up the 93 Cobra. I ran across a story several months ago about a man who had a 93 Cobra. It was originally painted that teal blue that Ford was using around that time and he hated the color so he had the car repainted in another color; red I believe. Anyway, the teal color was very rare on the 93 Cobra making it pretty valuable. He lost big money by changing the color from stock. You just never know.
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 03:13 PM
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Interesting you should bring up the 93 Cobra. I ran across a story several months ago about a man who had a 93 Cobra. It was originally painted that teal blue that Ford was using around that time and he hated the color so he had the car repainted in another color; red I believe. Anyway, the teal color was very rare on the 93 Cobra making it pretty valuable. He lost big money by changing the color from stock. You just never know.

Poor guy, I bet he thought about trying to strip the red off to get the blue back (if the blue wasnt totally removed first) LOL
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 3point7
Personally I'd like to find one of the Bullitt cars. Always loved that green color and I wish it was a standard color on the Mustang in general. Not an easy car to find though.
Without question ! The new edge Bullitt's are indeed very rare and hard to find
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Another reason why I should had kept my 93 SVT Cobra.. As it was the only SVT ever built on the Fox body and mine was kept in pristine condition.. IMO the value on these models are the ones that will go up the highest, as 93 was the first/last and only year the Cobra was ever produced on the Fox platform thus considered as more rare than both the SN-95 and New Edge Mustangs..
I just sold my 03 last year. Don't really miss it much. Just way too much car to enjoy so she just sat in the garage most of the time. I would love a 93 Cobra in red. I still see them from time to time for around $10-12k.
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