Ford to Build the 2015 GT350!
#61
If the GT350 does not have to live up to some number, then what is the significance of the GT350 name ? I would think Ford would be better off to just create a new name for the new proposed performance model. In order for a GT350 to sell, it would have to really produce some fantastic performance numbers.
#62
If the GT350 does not have to live up to some number, then what is the significance of the GT350 name ? I would think Ford would be better off to just create a new name for the new proposed performance model. In order for a GT350 to sell, it would have to really produce some fantastic performance numbers.
#65
I think they should just make it a Boss 302 like car. The original GT350s were meant to be road racing cars while the GT500 was the 1/4 mile muscle car.
When you really think about it the Boss 302 and GT350 served the same purpose back in the day. Personally I'd rather see the return of a Mach1. I don't like the idea of a modern GT500 and GT350 both being produced by Ford at the same time.
Perhaps it will be a watered down version of the GT500? The originals looked pretty much identical to the GT500 with less power and a lower price. I'm thinking maybe Ford will make it a cheaper alternative to buying the 662HP GT500?
When you really think about it the Boss 302 and GT350 served the same purpose back in the day. Personally I'd rather see the return of a Mach1. I don't like the idea of a modern GT500 and GT350 both being produced by Ford at the same time.
Perhaps it will be a watered down version of the GT500? The originals looked pretty much identical to the GT500 with less power and a lower price. I'm thinking maybe Ford will make it a cheaper alternative to buying the 662HP GT500?
#66
Originally Posted by 2 Go Snake
If Ford uses the name GT350 for a new high performance car, the 350 will have to mean something. If it means 350 horsepower, that is not enough horsepower. Now if it means 350 cubic inches, that would be okay with over 450 horsepower. The GT500 of modern times lived up to its name with at least 500 horsepower, that is one reason I want a GT500. The name GT500 has meaning.
Actually, we don't call our 2013 a Shelby or even a Cobra; we call it a Mustang. Let's face it, it's just a Mustang. A really fast Mustang. But still a Mustang.
#67
Besides alot of people really like the Boss and translating that into a GT350 is a good way to avoid pissing off all the guys who bought a Boss for its exclusivity while getting more mileage out of the drivetrain.
Also the GT --> GT350 --> GT500 progression makes understanding the Mustang line-up more intuitive for people who aren't Mustang fans.
Then there is the whole issue of what is a Mach 1 (the Boss seems alot clearer)? Even on this board you get a whole range of replies from it should be an ecoboost 6 (them's fight'n words in my book) making gobs of power to the 5.8 devoid of a supercharger for a powerplant (essentially your watered down GT500).
Although if Ford were to use the GT350 as a regular production vehicle where would that leave a future Boss SE?
Perhaps the GT350 will just be the Brembo brake package of the future?
#68
I think they should just make it a Boss 302 like car. The original GT350s were meant to be road racing cars while the GT500 was the 1/4 mile muscle car.
When you really think about it the Boss 302 and GT350 served the same purpose back in the day. Personally I'd rather see the return of a Mach1. I don't like the idea of a modern GT500 and GT350 both being produced by Ford at the same time.
Perhaps it will be a watered down version of the GT500? The originals looked pretty much identical to the GT500 with less power and a lower price. I'm thinking maybe Ford will make it a cheaper alternative to buying the 662HP GT500?
When you really think about it the Boss 302 and GT350 served the same purpose back in the day. Personally I'd rather see the return of a Mach1. I don't like the idea of a modern GT500 and GT350 both being produced by Ford at the same time.
Perhaps it will be a watered down version of the GT500? The originals looked pretty much identical to the GT500 with less power and a lower price. I'm thinking maybe Ford will make it a cheaper alternative to buying the 662HP GT500?
#69
IMO the Boss replacement is probably spot on, well its enough to make sense to me.
Besides alot of people really like the Boss and translating that into a GT350 is a good way to avoid pissing off all the guys who bought a Boss for its exclusivity while getting more mileage out of the drivetrain.
Also the GT --> GT350 --> GT500 progression makes understanding the Mustang line-up more intuitive for people who aren't Mustang fans.
Then there is the whole issue of what is a Mach 1 (the Boss seems alot clearer)? Even on this board you get a whole range of replies from it should be an ecoboost 6 (them's fight'n words in my book) making gobs of power to the 5.8 devoid of a supercharger for a powerplant (essentially your watered down GT500).
Although if Ford were to use the GT350 as a regular production vehicle where would that leave a future Boss SE?
Perhaps the GT350 will just be the Brembo brake package of the future?
#70
I dont know that there were enough Mustangs sent to Shelby to be converted to GT350 Mustangs in 2012 to indicate a GT350 is desired by very many Mustang buyers. If the GT350 is going to be like a Boss 302, why did Ford not attach the GT350 name to the Boss 302 and produce it in 2013. Why would Ford wait until 2014 to produce a 2015 model year GT350 ?
#71
I dont know that there were enough Mustangs sent to Shelby to be converted to GT350 Mustangs in 2012 to indicate a GT350 is desired by very many Mustang buyers. If the GT350 is going to be like a Boss 302, why did Ford not attach the GT350 name to the Boss 302 and produce it in 2013. Why would Ford wait until 2014 to produce a 2015 model year GT350 ?
Before Mr Shelby's death, there will have been a number of meetings in order to agree a new plan for the licensing agreement going forwards.
I forsee Shelby producing a variant of the Focus later this year and that will fill up capacity nicely for them, assuming the price isn't too silly. A lower entry price for a Shelby product means the brand is likely to stick around longer.
If this means a GT350 built by Ford, I can only see that as a good thing. If there's also to be a GT500, the 350 won't tread on its toes as it does at the moment, at least in terms of pricing. If the GT350 is also a spiritual successor to the Boss, then that too is a good thing as many have commented that the Boss was a better balanced package than the GT500. It would be nice to have such a Mustang in the S550 line up.
#72
Heres my wishful line-up
Base motor: V6 refreshed to push 350hp
Base GT: Coyote pushing 450hp
(Bullitt appearance package option)
GT350: Boss replacement, road racer friendly
GT500: Rip snarling 670-700hp MONSTER
All offered with a good ol 6-speed, IRS (SRA conversion kits available, probably aftermarket) and and all new refined interior.
Base motor: V6 refreshed to push 350hp
Base GT: Coyote pushing 450hp
(Bullitt appearance package option)
GT350: Boss replacement, road racer friendly
GT500: Rip snarling 670-700hp MONSTER
All offered with a good ol 6-speed, IRS (SRA conversion kits available, probably aftermarket) and and all new refined interior.
#73
Heres my wishful line-up
Base motor: V6 refreshed to push 350hp
Base GT: Coyote pushing 450hp
(Bullitt appearance package option)
GT350: Boss replacement, road racer friendly
GT500: Rip snarling 670-700hp MONSTER
All offered with a good ol 6-speed, IRS (SRA conversion kits available, probably aftermarket) and and all new refined interior.
Base motor: V6 refreshed to push 350hp
Base GT: Coyote pushing 450hp
(Bullitt appearance package option)
GT350: Boss replacement, road racer friendly
GT500: Rip snarling 670-700hp MONSTER
All offered with a good ol 6-speed, IRS (SRA conversion kits available, probably aftermarket) and and all new refined interior.
That would be a cool line-up and certainly one I'd like to see......although, personally, I'd rather investment wasn't spent on SRA conversion kits.......but I know there's going to be a large part of the drag racing crowd that may want it. Also, it does sound like we'll be getting a 4-cylinder entry level car. Whether this replaces the V6 or not remains to be seen, but here's my wish:
2.3 Inline 4 (300bhp)
3.7 V6 (330 bhp)
GT V8 (440 bhp)
GT350 n/a V8 (525bhp)
GT500 Ecoboost V8 (600bhp+)
Looking forward to some of these models being confirmed at some point this year
#74
That would be a cool line-up and certainly one I'd like to see......although, personally, I'd rather investment wasn't spent on SRA conversion kits.......but I know there's going to be a large part of the drag racing crowd that may want it. Also, it does sound like we'll be getting a 4-cylinder entry level car. Whether this replaces the V6 or not remains to be seen, but here's my wish:
2.3 Inline 4 (300bhp)
3.7 V6 (330 bhp)
GT V8 (440 bhp)
GT350 n/a V8 (525bhp)
GT500 Ecoboost V8 (600bhp+)
Looking forward to some of these models being confirmed at some point this year
2.3 Inline 4 (300bhp)
3.7 V6 (330 bhp)
GT V8 (440 bhp)
GT350 n/a V8 (525bhp)
GT500 Ecoboost V8 (600bhp+)
Looking forward to some of these models being confirmed at some point this year
3.7 V6 (330 bhp)
2.5 Inline 5 (350ish bhp)
GT V8 (440 bhp)
GT350 DI V8 (500ish bhp)
GT500 ? V8 ?
Is my call, Add in the 2.5l out of the RS500 (if they can't boost the 2.3 enough) and it could be a great entry level track beast but above the base model (I'd like to see a TT V6 as well, though) have the occasional SE (Bullitt/Mach 1), give the GT350 DI, but leave it naturally aspirated and the GT500 can be the monster we all want in an SVT built machine.
Last edited by Desi; 1/7/13 at 05:08 PM.
#75
Heres my wishful line-up
Base motor: V6 refreshed to push 350hp
Base GT: Coyote pushing 450hp
(Bullitt appearance package option)
GT350: Boss replacement, road racer friendly
GT500: Rip snarling 670-700hp MONSTER
All offered with a good ol 6-speed, IRS (SRA conversion kits available, probably aftermarket) and and all new refined interior.
Base motor: V6 refreshed to push 350hp
Base GT: Coyote pushing 450hp
(Bullitt appearance package option)
GT350: Boss replacement, road racer friendly
GT500: Rip snarling 670-700hp MONSTER
All offered with a good ol 6-speed, IRS (SRA conversion kits available, probably aftermarket) and and all new refined interior.
#76
That would be a cool line-up and certainly one I'd like to see......although, personally, I'd rather investment wasn't spent on SRA conversion kits.......but I know there's going to be a large part of the drag racing crowd that may want it. Also, it does sound like we'll be getting a 4-cylinder entry level car. Whether this replaces the V6 or not remains to be seen, but here's my wish:
2.3 Inline 4 (300bhp)
3.7 V6 (330 bhp)
GT V8 (440 bhp)
GT350 n/a V8 (525bhp)
GT500 Ecoboost V8 (600bhp+)
Looking forward to some of these models being confirmed at some point this year
2.3 Inline 4 (300bhp)
3.7 V6 (330 bhp)
GT V8 (440 bhp)
GT350 n/a V8 (525bhp)
GT500 Ecoboost V8 (600bhp+)
Looking forward to some of these models being confirmed at some point this year
#77
Rule the galaxy!!!!!!
#78
That would be a cool line-up and certainly one I'd like to see......although, personally, I'd rather investment wasn't spent on SRA conversion kits.......but I know there's going to be a large part of the drag racing crowd that may want it. Also, it does sound like we'll be getting a 4-cylinder entry level car. Whether this replaces the V6 or not remains to be seen, but here's my wish:
2.3 Inline 4 (300bhp)
3.7 V6 (330 bhp)
GT V8 (440 bhp)
GT350 n/a V8 (525bhp)
GT500 Ecoboost V8 (600bhp+)
Looking forward to some of these models being confirmed at some point this year
2.3 Inline 4 (300bhp)
3.7 V6 (330 bhp)
GT V8 (440 bhp)
GT350 n/a V8 (525bhp)
GT500 Ecoboost V8 (600bhp+)
Looking forward to some of these models being confirmed at some point this year
2.3 Ecoboost Base model (285-300hp)-it might most likely be a 2.0 Eco.
3.7 V6 base(330 hp) with optional 3.5 Ecoboost V6 (365 hp)
GT, Carryover V8 (440-450hp)
GT350 DI 5.0L V8 (525 hp)
GT500 Ecoboost(twin turbo and DI) 5.0L V8 (600+ hp)-probably not available until 2016/17.
All come standard with SRA, with optional IRS for those who want it. And hopefully no MT82s. I could be wrong about the power gaps though. The ford edge 3.5L V6 is rated very close to the 3.7L V6 sport (less than 20 hp gap.) So who knows
Last edited by jace1987; 1/3/13 at 09:04 PM.
#79
I have to agree; too narrow of a power gap between base and V6.
2.3 Ecoboost Base model (285-300hp)-it might most likely be a 2.0 Eco.
3.7 V6 base(330 hp) with optional 3.5 Ecoboost V6 (365 hp)
GT, Carryover V8 (440-450hp)
GT350 DI 5.0L V8 (525 hp)
GT500 Ecoboost(twin turbo and DI) 5.0L V8 (600+ hp)
All come standard with SRA, with optional IRS for those who want it. And hopefully no MT82s. I could be wrong about the power gaps though. The ford edge 3.5L V6 is rated very close to the 3.7L V6 sport (less than 20 hp gap.) So who knows