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This will be interesting. Obviously, the dealer will need Ford's blessing to fix under warranty.
The real state if wear will not be known unless the engine is dismantled. Not a good situation. Piston walls could be scared, bearings worn.
Best outcome would be a redo but I seriously doubt Ford will offer that option.
The real state if wear will not be known unless the engine is dismantled. Not a good situation. Piston walls could be scared, bearings worn.
Best outcome would be a redo but I seriously doubt Ford will offer that option.
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I would be surprised at that - unless the OP drove it several times with the "noise". OHC's typically rattle in the valve train first if you're 2 qts+ low on oil - long before mains are anywhere near oil starvation or piston walls are scuffed.
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Ok...Roadside Assistance picked up the car this morning. The dealer service advisor just called and said they confirmed that there was no oil showing on the stick, but the technician drained 4 quarts out of the car. Is this possible? He said Ford advised them to perform and oil change and a few more tests and I should be able to pick up the car in the morning. Opinions please!!!
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hope it is alright
if everything is ok, just check the oil periodically, like every 500 miles or so
it doesn't matter what the car cost, it won't check itself
save yourself the aggravation of getting the car towed, handled at the dealership and of course being unable to use it
if everything is ok, just check the oil periodically, like every 500 miles or so
it doesn't matter what the car cost, it won't check itself
save yourself the aggravation of getting the car towed, handled at the dealership and of course being unable to use it
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Then you need to have it changed at least every 3 hours and 36 minutes. On average.
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Ok...Roadside Assistance picked up the car this morning. The dealer service advisor just called and said they confirmed that there was no oil showing on the stick, but the technician drained 4 quarts out of the car. Is this possible? He said Ford advised them to perform and oil change and a few more tests and I should be able to pick up the car in the morning. Opinions please!!!
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So I don't know how long you kept driving it when you heard the noise, but here's my thought:
It was probably the valve train rattling because oil flow was getting intermittent to the heads and the TiVCT. Maybe the "hydraulic lash adjusters" (lifters) were rattling and/or the finger followers (that lever from the cam lobe to the valve stem). I would highly doubt you have any damage to the crank bearings or the cylinder walls - which is pretty much confirmed because you didn't get any signs of low oil pressure, warning light, or safe mode (low oil also increases heat and overheating triggers safe mode) - and you still had 4 qts.
If you want to be extra sure that no damage was done, you could have them pull the cam covers off and inspect cam lobes to see if there is any undue wear or markings.
If you shut it off pretty much as soon as you heard the noise, you're probably fine to just drive it - but keep an eye on that oil level until you figure out if its leaking, burning, or the factory didn't fill it full enough.
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Ok...Roadside Assistance picked up the car this morning. The dealer service advisor just called and said they confirmed that there was no oil showing on the stick, but the technician drained 4 quarts out of the car. Is this possible? He said Ford advised them to perform and oil change and a few more tests and I should be able to pick up the car in the morning. Opinions please!!!
(If it takes 8 and they drained 4 and had a quart in the filter.)
That is still not empty, thank goodness.
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They didn't fill it properly at the factory (6qts. like the '10 model).
No one at the dealership actually checked it (like they are supposed to).
It burned a quart during break-in.
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Definitely ask them who did the preinspection and if it was really done. Ask them for the inspection sheet. If it was done, a lazy *** obviously pencil whipped the list without doing the job.
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I went through 4 quarts in the first 5K miles. One quart in the next 3500 after the oil change to full syn @ 5K.
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wow... those 5.0's use some oil.
It doesn't matter what the silly book says - its what your engine says. Once you've established regular usage, its just common sense to keep an eye on it between that pattern, so as to catch any surprises.
It doesn't matter what the silly book says - its what your engine says. Once you've established regular usage, its just common sense to keep an eye on it between that pattern, so as to catch any surprises.
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I have 12500+ and it has never used a drop of oil, from day one. I have done three oil changes, one at 2800 miles to get the factory stuff out, and I had the dealer do one at six months for warranty purposes, and I just did another my self, all synthetic, with my changes using Mobil 1. Everyone is right, you need to check your oil on a regular basis. A good practice, fill up with fuel on the way home from work or school. Next morning check the oil before you drive. If you get into the habit, it will become natural.
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That's a negative ghost rider.
I had to watch my oil the first 5k miles and ended up putting 3, yes 3, quarts of oil into the engine to keep it in the full range. Since the first oil change done by the dealership at 5k it's been ok, at 9200 miles now and only had to add 1.5 quarts.
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Thanks Deysha. Well today has come and gone..no word on my car. My Ford service advisor was pretty confident I could pick my car up today after an oil change and a few more tests that Ford wanted them to run. He never even called. I called him late this afternoon and he was gone for the day. The person who answered the phone told me my car was NOT ready for pick up...and that they couldn't provide any additional details. Don't want to jump the gun, but I'm getting the feeling something is wrong. We'll see what tomorrow brings.
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We've seen lots of reports about how this new 5.0 motor appears to be burning oil during break-in, and until Ford puts out a TSB or Recall, we just need to work through the problems.
My motor burned through about 1-quart every 5,000 miles. Now that my car has about 18,500 miles on it, the oil consumption has stopped.
My motor burned through about 1-quart every 5,000 miles. Now that my car has about 18,500 miles on it, the oil consumption has stopped.
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Unless something has changed since my days at the dealership, 1 quart every 900 miles is considered 'normal'. That was the standard used during the late 80's for the re-ring TSB on the 302's.
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Allowing 6 minutes for an oil change then you would need to drive at an average rate of 1,428.57 mph to amass that 1 million miles a month.
As far as fuel goes, your just gonna have to refuel while driving.
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Allowing 6 minutes for an oil change.....