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Raxiom working on 2013 style tail lights with AM?

Old Jun 10, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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if Raxiom and AM hasn't released a 2013 tail light for the 10+ cars yet, it kinda sounds like it could a be a trademark design hold up from Ford or they are having issues getting the light DOT approved.
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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 12LavaRed
if Raxiom and AM hasn't released a 2013 tail light for the 10+ cars yet, it kinda sounds like it could a be a trademark design hold up from Ford or they are having issues getting the light DOT approved.
+1 I bet ford killed it.
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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 07:25 AM
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^Ditto!
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Old Jul 23, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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So I am guessing a make for these lights for an '07 is slim to none?
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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someone posted a leaked picture recently of the raxiom 13 style lights for the 05-09 crowed
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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Molds are expensive. You need at least 4. And then you need to make a LOT of parts to recoup the expense.

LED lighting like that is not easy to inlay into the plastic.

QC is an issue.

Haven't even looked at what trademarks / patents someone may be holding on them as well - in all, it is a difficult and expensive process, and so many times products that look good on paper are difficult to justify due to the break-even point being so hard to reach. Just random quick thoughts on it.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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I think cost is the biggest issue. I really don't believe demand is as high as most people think, so it may be really hard just to break even. And if they can't get the price down to $300 or less, then the demand will be almost 0...
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Bingo...

And to be honest, I looked at the same parts as well and determined that to do it here in the USA would be a very expensive proposition. Add to the mix that when you run plastic parts, you need to run at least a 1000 sets to make it make sense for injection purposes, and you can start to see the costs of doing them add up. I in no way am speaking for AM (Raxiom), just pointing out some of the challenges I can see from a short-run manufacturing POV.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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I wouldn't mind seeing a solution to the gap problem as an alternative.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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Which wouldn't be bad, but still requires a pair of the OEM taillights at between 600-1800 depending on how and where they are purchased. So for anyone to tool up for anything in plastic would be very cost prohibitive - now in billet, we could probably whip up something that would then be black anodized or PTM-capable, and not break the bank, but to be honest, how many sets of those would you realistically make? Each additional set made lowers the overall price for everyone, but if you only ever make 10-50 sets, it's not going to be an inexpensive product.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9388147&type=1

Looks like AM is making it for 2005-2009 wtf!!!

After waiting for over a year I went with a pre-painted bezels & decklid panel!


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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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+1 I bet ford killed it.
I have found some Major ground to support this theory Internally.
Ford has it on lockdown for 14 years.

US D681853 S1
(give it a google)

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DISCLAIMER: Don't take this to heart, just rumor

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mustang_2011
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9388147&type=1

Looks like AM is making it for 2005-2009 wtf!!!
Well 05-09 is what really matters anyway. :P But seriously, I'd be very interested in that *depending on the price*...And that hood too, while I'm at it.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
I wouldn't mind seeing a solution to the gap problem as an alternative.
Plastic dipping!!Saw a pic of a guy who did it! looks good!
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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It's just a design patent and reshaping the basic concept for the 05-09 cars would avoid infringing upon it. For the 10-12 it would likely be too close.

The expense of the molds, even in China, compared to projected sales is probably the sticking point for the earlier cars if there is one. The facebook link shows some prototypes, probably rapid prototypes or maybe rubber molds or proto molds at best. Even with accelerated tooling it would be at least two months before first shots. Probably longer. Then testing if they do it.... changes... rinse repeat as necessary, certification, then finally production and sales.
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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Official explanation of pictures?
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 06:32 PM
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http://www.americanmuscle.com/matte-...inyl-1012.html

Looks like this is their solution haha looks awful. Are the lines even straight?
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 06:19 AM
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It seems ok for me
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 08:23 AM
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I am thinking of giving it a shot with a deck lid black out. Hmmmmmm

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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 05:22 AM
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Does it make the lights harder to see at night and in the rain? I want to do this mod but do not want to be rear ended. Also did you have to take the lights off to put these on?

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If not, I'm working on printing pre-cut vinyl....I did the template and everything. Prices will be out soon.
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