Mustang 3.5L Ecoboost engine swap
9/14/15, 01:11 PM
#281
Cobra Member
Hey guys, I'm lost as to whats going on but love this thread.
However, I do know, if you have a run of 1" pipe. Lets just say 2 feet long and then reduce it down to 3/4" at any point, you will only be able to flow the volume that a 3/4 pipe can handle. Which makes the 1" pipe flowing the same GPM as the 3/4". Bottom line is you can only flow so much liquid as the smallest port. The system will dictate the volume of flow. This holds true with a pump or no pump. This is what is know as a restriction.
Take 20 feet of 2" pipe and at 19 feet you install a 1" x 2" adpater and finish the run with 2" pipe. You will only be able to push through that 2" pipe is what a 1" pipe will allow. Same holds true if you went the other way. 2" pipe with an adpater of 2"x3". You will only be able to pass what a 2" pipe can handle.
I'm a Plumber and this is plumbing 101. Even if you push 101 through 102, it will still come out 101. Lol
Hope I was able to help.
However, I do know, if you have a run of 1" pipe. Lets just say 2 feet long and then reduce it down to 3/4" at any point, you will only be able to flow the volume that a 3/4 pipe can handle. Which makes the 1" pipe flowing the same GPM as the 3/4". Bottom line is you can only flow so much liquid as the smallest port. The system will dictate the volume of flow. This holds true with a pump or no pump. This is what is know as a restriction.
Take 20 feet of 2" pipe and at 19 feet you install a 1" x 2" adpater and finish the run with 2" pipe. You will only be able to push through that 2" pipe is what a 1" pipe will allow. Same holds true if you went the other way. 2" pipe with an adpater of 2"x3". You will only be able to pass what a 2" pipe can handle.
I'm a Plumber and this is plumbing 101. Even if you push 101 through 102, it will still come out 101. Lol
Hope I was able to help.
9/14/15, 01:34 PM
#282
Cobra Member
Thread Starter
Those Rule pumps are useless with restrictions, and you can't eliminate your restrictions. Two pumps won't work any better than one.
I hate to say it because it's not what you want to hear, but there is no "budget" way of getting your system to perform like you need it to. If I was you I would run the Lingenfelter pump and as much 1" line as possible and be done with it. Short of gauging up the IC's and HE that is as good as it will get.
I hate to say it because it's not what you want to hear, but there is no "budget" way of getting your system to perform like you need it to. If I was you I would run the Lingenfelter pump and as much 1" line as possible and be done with it. Short of gauging up the IC's and HE that is as good as it will get.
9/14/15, 01:40 PM
#283
Cobra Member
Thread Starter
Hey guys, I'm lost as to whats going on but love this thread.
However, I do know, if you have a run of 1" pipe. Lets just say 2 feet long and then reduce it down to 3/4" at any point, you will only be able to flow the volume that a 3/4 pipe can handle. Which makes the 1" pipe flowing the same GPM as the 3/4". Bottom line is you can only flow so much liquid as the smallest port. The system will dictate the volume of flow. This holds true with a pump or no pump. This is what is know as a restriction.
Take 20 feet of 2" pipe and at 19 feet you install a 1" x 2" adpater and finish the run with 2" pipe. You will only be able to push through that 2" pipe is what a 1" pipe will allow. Same holds true if you went the other way. 2" pipe with an adpater of 2"x3". You will only be able to pass what a 2" pipe can handle.
I'm a Plumber and this is plumbing 101. Even if you push 101 through 102, it will still come out 101. Lol
Hope I was able to help.
However, I do know, if you have a run of 1" pipe. Lets just say 2 feet long and then reduce it down to 3/4" at any point, you will only be able to flow the volume that a 3/4 pipe can handle. Which makes the 1" pipe flowing the same GPM as the 3/4". Bottom line is you can only flow so much liquid as the smallest port. The system will dictate the volume of flow. This holds true with a pump or no pump. This is what is know as a restriction.
Take 20 feet of 2" pipe and at 19 feet you install a 1" x 2" adpater and finish the run with 2" pipe. You will only be able to push through that 2" pipe is what a 1" pipe will allow. Same holds true if you went the other way. 2" pipe with an adpater of 2"x3". You will only be able to pass what a 2" pipe can handle.
I'm a Plumber and this is plumbing 101. Even if you push 101 through 102, it will still come out 101. Lol
Hope I was able to help.
Last edited by Ecostang; 9/14/15 at 09:29 PM.
9/14/15, 01:51 PM
#284
Bullitt Member
Hey guys, I'm lost as to whats going on but love this thread.
However, I do know, if you have a run of 1" pipe. Lets just say 2 feet long and then reduce it down to 3/4" at any point, you will only be able to flow the volume that a 3/4 pipe can handle. Which makes the 1" pipe flowing the same GPM as the 3/4". Bottom line is you can only flow so much liquid as the smallest port. The system will dictate the volume of flow. This holds true with a pump or no pump. This is what is know as a restriction.
Take 20 feet of 2" pipe and at 19 feet you install a 1" x 2" adpater and finish the run with 2" pipe. You will only be able to push through that 2" pipe is what a 1" pipe will allow. Same holds true if you went the other way. 2" pipe with an adpater of 2"x3". You will only be able to pass what a 2" pipe can handle.
I'm a Plumber and this is plumbing 101. Even if you push 101 through 102, it will still come out 101. Lol
Hope I was able to help.
However, I do know, if you have a run of 1" pipe. Lets just say 2 feet long and then reduce it down to 3/4" at any point, you will only be able to flow the volume that a 3/4 pipe can handle. Which makes the 1" pipe flowing the same GPM as the 3/4". Bottom line is you can only flow so much liquid as the smallest port. The system will dictate the volume of flow. This holds true with a pump or no pump. This is what is know as a restriction.
Take 20 feet of 2" pipe and at 19 feet you install a 1" x 2" adpater and finish the run with 2" pipe. You will only be able to push through that 2" pipe is what a 1" pipe will allow. Same holds true if you went the other way. 2" pipe with an adpater of 2"x3". You will only be able to pass what a 2" pipe can handle.
I'm a Plumber and this is plumbing 101. Even if you push 101 through 102, it will still come out 101. Lol
Hope I was able to help.
9/15/15, 12:18 AM
#285
Cobra Member
Thread Starter
Those Rule pumps are useless with restrictions, and you can't eliminate your restrictions. Two pumps won't work any better than one.
I hate to say it because it's not what you want to hear, but there is no "budget" way of getting your system to perform like you need it to. If I was you I would run the Lingenfelter pump and as much 1" line as possible and be done with it. Short of gauging up the IC's and HE that is as good as it will get.
I hate to say it because it's not what you want to hear, but there is no "budget" way of getting your system to perform like you need it to. If I was you I would run the Lingenfelter pump and as much 1" line as possible and be done with it. Short of gauging up the IC's and HE that is as good as it will get.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/lp...MobileSwitchNo
And this,
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.Vfe2W3BOKrV
I'm assuming you are referring to the first pump but I wanted to double check before ordering something. Price isnt bad at all unless it's the second pump. Thanks
9/15/15, 05:12 AM
#286
Bullitt Member
I found this,
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/lp...MobileSwitchNo
And this,
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.Vfe2W3BOKrV
I'm assuming you are referring to the first pump but I wanted to double check before ordering something. Price isnt bad at all unless it's the second pump. Thanks
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/lp...MobileSwitchNo
And this,
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.Vfe2W3BOKrV
I'm assuming you are referring to the first pump but I wanted to double check before ordering something. Price isnt bad at all unless it's the second pump. Thanks
And this,
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.Vfe2W3BOKrV
9/15/15, 07:24 AM
#287
Cobra Member
Thread Starter
It's the second pump that you need. The first one is weak.
And this,
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.Vfe2W3BOKrV
And this,
http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.Vfe2W3BOKrV
Last edited by Ecostang; 9/15/15 at 08:12 AM.
9/15/15, 08:12 AM
#288
Cobra Member
Thread Starter
Btw just to be clear this is a Stewart emp pump with lingenfelter programming. This pump can be bought $100 less from Stewart without the programming. I contacted Stewart to ask what is involved in reprogramming the pump, maybe I can do it myself and save $100.
http://www.stewartcomponents.com/ind...&product_id=71
http://www.stewartcomponents.com/ind...&product_id=71
9/15/15, 12:55 PM
#289
Bullitt Member
Btw just to be clear this is a Stewart emp pump with lingenfelter programming. This pump can be bought $100 less from Stewart without the programming. I contacted Stewart to ask what is involved in reprogramming the pump, maybe I can do it myself and save $100.
http://www.stewartcomponents.com/ind...&product_id=71
http://www.stewartcomponents.com/ind...&product_id=71
9/15/15, 07:24 PM
#290
Cobra Member
Thread Starter
Can my alternator handle 24 amps?
9/15/15, 08:02 PM
#294
Cobra Member
Thread Starter
I bought a used 3.5 ecoboost factory y pipe for the exhaust. I cut off the flanges with a short section of pipe to have something to connect a custom pipe to. The custom piece will go from here to the mustang x pipe. I will have some high flow cats installed in the custom pieces.
I was very concerned about these not fitting, it's definitely tight. If they didn't fit it could mean new exhaust manifolds.
I was very concerned about these not fitting, it's definitely tight. If they didn't fit it could mean new exhaust manifolds.
9/15/15, 08:15 PM
#296
Bullitt Member
So I contacted Stewart and they said the programming they include with the pump is the max capacity. The LFP version of the pump pulls 12 amps, while the Stewart version pulls 24 amps. The customer service rep told me they can supply the tool to change the flow rate myself if I wanted to. It's $100 cheaper and is apparently set higher at a higher flow rate than the LFP pump, unless I missed something.
Can my alternator handle 24 amps?
Can my alternator handle 24 amps?
9/15/15, 08:37 PM
#297
Cobra Member
Thread Starter
Well I see that the lingenfelter pump gives a flow rating at 12 amps but not any higher, but they do state a 25 amp max amp draw. I would say they could be a little more clear on their end about the pump performance.
Stewart sent me a 20 page instruction manual with all the specs, they come with the max rating already programmed in. I don't see how I'm getting anything better spending the extra $100. I can spend a few more dollars and I can program the pump myself. Am I missing something? Is lingenfelter over driving the pump?
Stewart sent me a 20 page instruction manual with all the specs, they come with the max rating already programmed in. I don't see how I'm getting anything better spending the extra $100. I can spend a few more dollars and I can program the pump myself. Am I missing something? Is lingenfelter over driving the pump?
9/15/15, 09:14 PM
#300
Cobra Member
How you manage to get any work done on this project, take pictures, document your work, post on this forum, research parts, do more research, not to mention the rest of any and all real life activities astonishes me. Thanks for doing this, its definitely a cool project.