Trackey for manual 2014 GT's manufactured after 7/1/2013
6/5/14, 04:48 PM
#101
Cobra Member
Yep, I totally get it. In my case, I am picking up my 2014 tomorrow and have to admit I'm enamored with the wow factor of the TracKey. In an unrelated note, anyone notice that the TracKey instructions specify 5w20 oil, but the track pack cars specify 5w50? Also the track pack cars have "unique ESC tuning," I wonder if there are any compatibility issues with the track pack and TracKey (I know it sounds ridiculous). And if it's OK (more than likely), which oil would you use?
Definitely don't want to turn this into an oil thread. But people will tell you to run what on the oil cap to be safe. Personally I run 5w30, it's right between the two recommended oils for base gt and track pack gt. Since both are the same motor I figure anything in the middle will work too.
Good question about the ESC tuning for track pack/brembo cars. I'd imagine that would be separate from what FR messed with for the trackey cal.
6/5/14, 04:51 PM
#102
Cobra Member
I asked this question of the tech folks and here is the answer. "Use the oil that is recommended for use in the owner's manual or supplement. If it says 5W50, then use 5W50. (This will work just fine with the Trackey or Track Cal). " My guess is the 5 is the important number as 5 will flow easier than a 10 weight? So don't use 10/30 etc. Something about the way the valves behave needs the lower number I guess.
Last edited by typesredline; 6/5/14 at 05:03 PM.
6/5/14, 04:56 PM
#103
Cobra Member
No it's a legit question. The physical engine is the same but calibrations are viscosity-specific because of VCT: http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...1#post11805636 And Ford's own literature on the GT Track Key backs this up: What if the " TRACKEY IDLE ENABLED" message is displayed but the idle is not very lopey? • First, verify that the engine oil level is correct. Make sure to use only 5W20 oil, as cam control can vary dependent on oil viscosity. Secondly, turn off all accessories such as air conditioning, rear window defrost, etc. If the idle still isn't lopey, the PCM may need to relearn the zero (or "home") position of the cams. To facilitate this learning process, shut the engine off, restart the engine using the black (non-Track) key and let the engine idle for 5 minutes with the vehicle stationary. Do not touch the accelerator pedal during this time. Once the zero position is learned, it should not need to be relearned unless the battery is disconnected or the PCM is reflashed.
Last edited by typesredline; 6/5/14 at 05:04 PM.
6/5/14, 04:59 PM
#104
Cobra Member
Based on the previous post, I'd continue to run what the manual says (or whatever you decide to run in that range). I doubt the idle will be noticeably affected from oil weight. I suspect that is FRPP speak to have a proactive solution to the nit picky customers that are unhappy with the tune.
6/6/14, 07:06 AM
#105
V6 Member
6/6/14, 02:58 PM
#108
Shelby GT500 Member
Got mine installed today. Car runs fantastic with it. The lopey idle is SIC compared to the lopey idle on my 2012 Boss302!. It shakes the snot out of the car. The only issue I have noticed is that twice the car has fallen flat on its face from dig leaving a light. Each time it happened the lopey idle stopped until whatever the issue was reset itself. It'll have to go back to be looked at when I get back from Vegas in a week.
Since my car was already close to needing an oil change i had it done as well and we put in what was recommend in the Trackey documentation.
I might try the AutoX with it tomorrow. I'll let my son-in-law drive it if he wants. He has driven it in another session we had. I'd like his impression on the change with Trackey.
Since my car was already close to needing an oil change i had it done as well and we put in what was recommend in the Trackey documentation.
I might try the AutoX with it tomorrow. I'll let my son-in-law drive it if he wants. He has driven it in another session we had. I'd like his impression on the change with Trackey.
Last edited by MyStang2010GB; 6/6/14 at 03:10 PM.
6/6/14, 03:05 PM
#109
Legacy TMS Member
Got mine installed today. Car runs fantastic with it. The lopey idle is SIC compared to the lopey idle on my 2012 Boss302!. It shakes the snot out of the car. The only issue I have noticed is that twice the car has fallen flat on its face from dig leaving a light. Each time it happened the lopey idle stopped until whatever the issue was reset itself. It'll have to go back to be looked at when I get back from Vegas in a week. Since my car was already close to needing an oil change i had it done as well and we put in what was recommend in the Trackey documentation. I might try the AutoX with it tomorrow. I'll let my son-in-law drive it if he wants. He has driven it in another session we had. I'd like his impression on the change with Trackey.
6/6/14, 03:13 PM
#110
Shelby GT500 Member
6/6/14, 03:17 PM
#111
V6 Member
Got mine installed today. Car runs fantastic with it. The lopey idle is SIC compared to the lopey idle on my 2012 Boss302!. It shakes the snot out of the car. The only issue I have noticed is that twice the car has fallen flat on its face from dig leaving a light. Each time it happened the lopey idle stopped until whatever the issue was reset itself. It'll have to go back to be looked at when I get back from Vegas in a week.
Since my car was already close to needing an oil change i had it done as well and we put in what was recommend in the Trackey documentation.
I might try the AutoX with it tomorrow. I'll let my son-in-law drive it if he wants. He has driven it in another session we had. I'd like his impression on the change with Trackey.
Since my car was already close to needing an oil change i had it done as well and we put in what was recommend in the Trackey documentation.
I might try the AutoX with it tomorrow. I'll let my son-in-law drive it if he wants. He has driven it in another session we had. I'd like his impression on the change with Trackey.
6/6/14, 03:19 PM
#112
Shelby GT500 Member
pedal tip in is perfect. My car had a slight hesitation on regular key. none what so ever on this Trackey tune. I love the fact that it is a key and lugging a tuner around.
6/7/14, 02:47 PM
#114
GT Member
Thanks for the update.
You must be one of if not the first to get the TracKey installed.
I'm a bit concerned about the stumble and if it will necessitate an updated re-flash.
My only gripe with the key is that only the Dealer can do it and any updates will require a trip to the Dealer and another shop fee.
Looking forward to further impressions and developments.
You must be one of if not the first to get the TracKey installed.
I'm a bit concerned about the stumble and if it will necessitate an updated re-flash.
My only gripe with the key is that only the Dealer can do it and any updates will require a trip to the Dealer and another shop fee.
Looking forward to further impressions and developments.
6/7/14, 02:52 PM
#115
Cobra Member
Thanks for the update. You must be one of if not the first to get the TracKey installed. I'm a bit concerned about the stumble and if it will necessitate an updated re-flash. My only gripe with the key is that only the Dealer can do it and any updates will require a trip to the Dealer and another shop fee. Looking forward to further impressions and developments.
6/7/14, 03:13 PM
#116
Thanks for the update.
You must be one of if not the first to get the TracKey installed.
I'm a bit concerned about the stumble and if it will necessitate an updated re-flash.
My only gripe with the key is that only the Dealer can do it and any updates will require a trip to the Dealer and another shop fee.
Looking forward to further impressions and developments.
You must be one of if not the first to get the TracKey installed.
I'm a bit concerned about the stumble and if it will necessitate an updated re-flash.
My only gripe with the key is that only the Dealer can do it and any updates will require a trip to the Dealer and another shop fee.
Looking forward to further impressions and developments.
Also about the stumbling, I read somewhere that Ford tunes run a different program for the first 18 key cycles before they revert to the standard program. Maybe this will just kind of work itself out? Fingers crossed.
6/7/14, 03:35 PM
#117
GT Member
Your point is well taken about the reflash. Ford Racing wouldn't cover this under warranty?
Also about the stumbling, I read somewhere that Ford tunes run a different program for the first 18 key cycles before they revert to the standard program. Maybe this will just kind of work itself out? Fingers crossed.
Also about the stumbling, I read somewhere that Ford tunes run a different program for the first 18 key cycles before they revert to the standard program. Maybe this will just kind of work itself out? Fingers crossed.
I had a CTSv shipped from my previous home at sea level to 7600 feet ASL and it was a mess for the first day or two until the PCM adjusted to altitude.
6/7/14, 06:50 PM
#118
GT Member
Sorry a bit off topic...
My pervious post caused me to think about piston driven aircraft.
With a carbureted aircraft we adjust the air / fuel ratio manually based on exhaust gas temperature.
With a fuel injected aircraft the ECM does the job.
How is it that an aircraft ECM can adjust the air / fuel ratio based on temperature and pressure in near realtime and my car can not?
My pervious post caused me to think about piston driven aircraft.
With a carbureted aircraft we adjust the air / fuel ratio manually based on exhaust gas temperature.
With a fuel injected aircraft the ECM does the job.
How is it that an aircraft ECM can adjust the air / fuel ratio based on temperature and pressure in near realtime and my car can not?
6/7/14, 08:59 PM
#119
Shelby GT500 Member
So I have been driving the car all day on the Trackey and the stumble from a stop when lopey idle is enabled has completely gone away...
For some reason I am using a lot more premium gas the past 2 days.....
For some reason I am using a lot more premium gas the past 2 days.....
6/7/14, 09:08 PM
#120
Oh and that's good news about the stumble from a stop.