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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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Why would they consider offering a camaro at the corvette price-point? Sure it's cool. But I wouldn't buy one when I could get a nice vette for the same dough.
I would agree, unless ...


... you have 2 little ones to haul around. I was going to buy a Miata or a Honda S2000, but plans were shot down when news that I was to be a daddy popped up. Then number 2 a year later. A 2 seater made no sense, but a new Mustang GT convertible made perfect sense!! Alot of people got a chuckle seeing my new vert with 2 baby seats in the back!

Long story short, some of us need those rear seats.

But at that price if you want a track car, yeah a Vette maybe smarter? Our Boss made perfect sense for the price as CCT King stated.

Still, I hope it does well.

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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 12:47 PM
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If fords SVT team made a FR500 SE or Parnelli Jones SE to compete with the z28 but slot price where the boss was, im pretty sure Chevy will end up removing the z28 from the line. Im not sure what their projected sales goals are but i highly doubt theyd sell more than a thousand or couple thousand a year
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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Im not sure what their projected sales goals are but i highly doubt theyd sell more than a thousand or couple thousand a year
Just a showroom draw, just like the Boss and Shelby are for Ford.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jim010
Just a showroom draw, just like the Boss and Shelby are for Ford.
Get you in there to ogle a Z/28, then start in with the "So, what's it going to take to put you into this beautiful Chevy Sonic today?"
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown

Get you in there to ogle a Z/28, then start in with the "So, what's it going to take to put you into this beautiful Chevy Sonic today?"
Lol...wonder how long it will be before they release the final price? Hope they are only built to order
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
Get you in there to ogle a Z/28, then start in with the "So, what's it going to take to put you into this beautiful Chevy Sonic today?"
probably.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CCTking
As dtated before the corvette is a much better performer for the same money as the z28. Why Chevy priced it to where it competes with vette sales is beyond me. If it was priced closer to the zl1 that would be better.
An even better thing would be that the zl1 is more focused on straight line with decent handling (like the gt500) while the z28 is the track animal that can hold its own in a straight line battle (like the Boss models).
This wouldve been more logical, and the main reason Ford has been so successful with the mustang for the past couple years. Theres a different car for everyone all at affordable prices with HUGE aftermarket support. The camaro is priced just a shade too high
Run for Office. Agree 100% again.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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Glad you guys like my posts :meral:
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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even if we got "spanked" I still have a nice car

set in a camaro and try to love it... I love the exterior but the interior I couldnt do
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jdub2k5
even if we got "spanked" I still have a nice car

set in a camaro and try to love it... I love the exterior but the interior I couldnt do
I wouldnt really say "spanked" is the right word for the thread tbh. Id just say Camaro Concerns. Who knows what else GM could do to shrink its wallet, toss their new TT V6 into the camaro?

Actually, that would be good for us because it could prompt ford into bringing out an ecoboost motor tuned for the mustang. Who knows whatll happen next
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by conv_stang

I think with the equipment listed on the Z28. I really think its gonna give the Porsche and Godzilla a run for its money. The ZL1 has proven pretty capable on the road course...the Z28 takes that up a few notches, better brakes, better shocks, better suspension, 305 R compound tires on all 4 corners and dropped 300 pounds. On paper it's gonna be a rocket
I think it just weighs too much. Still weighs more than the mustang! Plus the AWD of the GT-R will help it outpace both contenders through the corners although the porsche is lighter. Posche will be very close and ultimately a drivers race. Both cars have their strengths and weaknesses to exploit.
The z28 however most likely wont be as fast. The weight, visibility, drivings dynamics (currently unknown) will all contribute to its losing performance. Itd be interesting to see it take on a supercharged Boss though!
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CCTking

I think it just weighs too much. Still weighs more than the mustang! Plus the AWD of the GT-R will help it outpace both contenders through the corners although the porsche is lighter. Posche will be very close and ultimately a drivers race. Both cars have their strengths and weaknesses to exploit.
The z28 however most likely wont be as fast. The weight, visibility, drivings dynamics (currently unknown) will all contribute to its losing performance. Itd be interesting to see it take on a supercharged Boss though!
I think it's gonna come down to how well those R-compound tires are. I didn't even know Pirelli had them. It's going to be interesting to see what it does. I think it's gonna perform great, just Chevy has priced it out of range if it does start around $70,000. But it's even funnier reading the ZL1 owners say they want the LS9 engine and the brakes and stuff from the Z28. So I'm guessing $70,000 doesn't matter to them, since now they want a $80,000 ZL1
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 10:57 PM
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Chevy really needs to re-think their upper level camaro prices. I mean, a track ready camaro thats more expensive than a track inspired/ready corvette? Im still scratching my head there.
And when it comes down to it the r-compound and the stiffer sidewall will add to rigidity and grip which will help the car in turns. I think it eill definitely perform but also a waste of money to bring back a nameplate
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CCTking
Chevy really needs to re-think their upper level camaro prices. I mean, a track ready camaro thats more expensive than a track inspired/ready corvette? Im still scratching my head there.
And when it comes down to it the r-compound and the stiffer sidewall will add to rigidity and grip which will help the car in turns. I think it eill definitely perform but also a waste of money to bring back a nameplate
I still like reading on C5 all the people still posting that this car will be around 48,000 lol
It's comical
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 04:48 AM
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I'm surprised Chevy did this when they already have the ZLE, that outperforms the Boss on a track, wether it due to wider, stickier tires or not. Its been proven by back to back test.
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by conv_stang

I still like reading on C5 all the people still posting that this car will be around 48,000 lol
It's comical
Yea well i think weve all come to general conclusion that theyre just a bunch of big dreamers
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by UnrealFord
I'm surprised Chevy did this when they already have the ZLE, that outperforms the Boss on a track, wether it due to wider, stickier tires or not. Its been proven by back to back test.
This. The 1LE was faster than the boss by at least a second on most tracks. And its probably one of if not THE best handling camaro ever.
And now the Z28? I guess theyre tryin to prove that the Camaro is a contender on all fronts making it versatile and adding to the funfactor.
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CCTking

This. The 1LE was faster than the boss by at least a second on most tracks. And its probably one of if not THE best handling camaro ever.
And now the Z28? I guess theyre tryin to prove that the Camaro is a contender on all fronts making it versatile and adding to the funfactor.
I don't mind at all what they are doing. It's fun to see what they are coming up with. But they are gonna price themselves out of the pony market. They are getting close to Higher end cars in price. But it's still a Camaro with low build quality.
I mean the ZL1 and GT500 are already up there in price. And Chevy keeps raising the cost. They call the Z28 a street legal track car. But yet they still have a back seat.
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Old Apr 2, 2013 | 09:54 AM
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They'll have a market, although small. There have been planty of Mustangers that have bought 500KRs, Super Snakes and Shelby 1000s.
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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