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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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The GM fanboys said for years that the Shelby needed a blower to make any decent power and it was a cheap way to
make power and there was no replacement for displacement and blower whine sucked.

Now that all seems ok.
They are hating because the LS motors don't respond to forced induction as well as Ford's engines do. Same blower on both engines, and you will see better gains from the ford engines. Guess they figured out that peak hp is just not the same as cheap FI hp.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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The letter is a matter of perspective. The GM exec wants to stir up some brand loyalty and make it sound like this is all new. Let's look at some facts, shall we?

- Coyote was in development before the Camaro production run began.
- GT500 in turn spurred the development of the ZL1
- My favorite: The ZL1 was intended to be a Z/28, but a few days prior to the NYIAS it was changed because of the Boss 302 reviews that started rolling out. Talk about response to a situation.

Bottom line, I'm happy to see two high powered, technologically advanced cars from American companies available in the times of increased fuel economy regulations and legislation. I can't wait to see a balanced test between the two.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
The GM fanboys said for years that the Shelby needed a blower to make any decent power and it was a cheap way to
make power and there was no replacement for displacement and blower whine sucked.

Now that all seems ok.
It's blind brand loyalty at it's finest.

These are the kind of people that make a thread when the mustang has a TSB or issue with something, but when their own cars breaks outputs shafts and has cheap paint they leave it at "every car has problems" lol
the gm kool-aid must have crack in it.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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Regardless of views or perspectives it is undignified for anyone up the food chain to trash talk. Besides, if one is on top there is no need to be looking on who is behind. Why give the inferior so much attention?
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Personally I like to see 'em go down in flames rather than walk away quietly...
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:42 AM
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I'd like to beat them like a pinata and get my tax money back.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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Personally I like to see 'em go down in flames rather than walk away quietly...
If that happened, there would be no reason to ever improve the mustang. (no competition). I hope the camaro comes back even stronger. That way the stang will just get better. I love this battle.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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I don't have any problem with the mustang I hope it keeps improving, and that 07-09 gt500 I've been wishing for can be mine!
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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I don't have any problem with the mustang I hope it keeps improving, and that 07-09 gt500 I've been wishing for can be mine!
Yeah me too. My newer 700hp deShelby'd gt500 is in my sights. Trade em in fellas.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
I'd like to beat them like a pinata and get my tax money back.
KEEP DREAMING!

You have a better chance being paid back by you kids.


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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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I sure am thankfull to Ford for producing a 650 horespower GT500. I am going to finally get the Mustang I was hoping for. So far the only thing I would want are the hood vents on the 5.0 GT. Maybe the 2014 GT500 will have the same hood vents as the 2013 GT. Then I would have a good excuse to trade in the 2013 GT500.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
The GM fanboys said for years that the Shelby needed a blower to make any decent power and it was a cheap way to
make power and there was no replacement for displacement and blower whine sucked.

Now that all seems ok.
Exactly. They're blowing out of both sides of their tail pipe.

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If that happened, there would be no reason to ever improve the mustang. (no competition).
There were plenty of improvements in performance without Camaro or Challenger. Look at Bullitt. That program was in place before and regardless of the Chally. And yet the little 281 holds neck and neck with the big bad 08 6.2 Hemi.

Ford has been focusing on upping its game the whole time because Ford recognizes it has to please its loyal base - with or without the other (bailout) boys.

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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:27 PM
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Camaro ZL1 Chief Engineer says "You're Welcome" to Ford Mustang fans

Check this out...this guy says the Mustang has been playing catch up since the arrival of the 5th Gen Camaro...What the heck has he been smokin?

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/18/c...-ford-mustang/
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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Nice to the the competition between Ford and Chevy in full swing. I just don't see the ZL1 being faster in any test and the fact that they are bringing up things like how you have to purchase additional features for the track is kind of weak. Ive been to summit point and VIR a couple times and never seen a camaro.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:58 PM
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You're right about the competition...it's great to see...heck, even Dodge release a new Challenger to better compete with the Camaro and Mustang (Challenger SRT8 392). But after reading this guy's statement in full, I think he is being a little disingenuous. I allowed all my magazine subscriptions to expire...now I need to reup and get them going again :-)
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:02 PM
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I'm a blue oval guy, but even I will admit there is some truth in his words. Of course he has said it in a over the top manner that makes him look like a tool.

The fact is, the Mustang is better because the Camaro is back in the race. Has it been playing catch up to the Camero? Hardly, but the bow-tie boys have to have something to feel good about at night; I'm certain that GT500 is in their nightmares.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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He is definitely being disingenuous, and i did see that SRT8 392...the Challenger ACR is kind of sexy but i have grown way to fond of cars that handle great over speed to buy one. Guess we will see a ZL1 V.S. GT500 Comparo soon enough until then i cant wait.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:24 PM
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Maybe by "catch up" he meant the mustang went extinct and then came back to catch up to the camaro that was selling tons of aweaome cars..........oh wait, i have that backwards! wake up GM!
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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GM has been playing catch up since April 17, 1964.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 12:14 AM
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lol you can tell he's mad.
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