I guess I don't understand the whole, "Ford is trying to play catch-up" mindset among the fifth-generation Camaro contingent. Do they not realize their car wouldn't exist if not for the success of the 2005+ Mustang? Do they not realize it was the Camaro, and not the Mustang, that returned in 2010 after an eight-year hiatus? Do they not realize the Camaro ZL1 is in response to the Mustang GT500, a car that, in its modern iteration, was released in MY 2007; Ford has upgraded the car -- its engine, its suspension, etc -- multiple times, too, since, devoid of any real direct competition (heck, the ZL1 still isn't officially out).

Also, a letter to Camaro owners? Really? Let your car do the talking; making excuses just seems, well, pathetic to me.

 

EXACTLY! The guy is cuckoo and peeing down his leg.

 

It's called being delusional. Something you'd have to be to work at the morally and fiscally bankrupt GM.

 

11/17/10 GM Stock $33...
Tomorrow, a year later, it opens at $22.66...

Nuff Said

 

He's trying to justify the failure!!! everybody knows that Ford started this muscle car race back up and I'm thankful they did. the 2005-2010 mustangs weren't the most powerful obviously but who did they have to compete with?!?!? the new mustangs walk circles around the camaro and we all know and the CEO knows it that's why he's trying to make excuses as to why the Camaro is second place once again....what a *******.

 

Poor bastards stock holders of the "old GM"
It was fun over at camaro5 when people were like "omg I can't wait to buy the new GM stock!!!"
when they should have been buying ford stock!

 

It might have already been noted but if Ford is playing catch up then can someone answer a simple question for me.
Who released their current turnkey track car first? Is the new camaro supposed to be on the track with the Boss or on the street with the GT500?

Sincerely,
Confused

 

Still 285's from what I've read on the net, I think it was posted my Inside Line.

 

Is whammer lost? He's in the Shelby threads.

 

EXACTLY!!

 

That letter has to be the result of hundreds of GM dealers hitting the panic button over all the cancelled ZL1 orders. LOL
I'll bet GM's switchboard was lit up all day long.

The letter is delusional to say the least, as others have mentioned.....how can Ford be playing catch-up when they started the race 4 years before GM crept out of the starting blocks?

The competition is good for fans of both auto makers. Everyone gets the best cars each maker can produce.

 

The letter does have a point. The ZL1 comes as is ready to go where we have to buy extra "packs" for the GT500. Surely Ford could just make it with everything just like GM is doing.

 

Why? I think people want options. I think most would opt for the Performace Pack but the Track Pack seems most suited for those who are going to track their cars HARD.
Some might just want the base car because they want the top Stang but know they will never push the car to it's limits. You don't need all those features if you just drive the car to work, hit the freeway and let it rip a little down a quiet road.

 

It's called options and I for one don't want to be locked into something I didn't want.

 

ALL OF THIS.

Thanks guys, you saved me a lot of typing. What an idiot

 

I've always felt the GT500 should come one way and that's with all the performance in every car built. As an actual two time GT500 owner I have a right to that opinion.

 

I've got that same right (former GT500 and Super Snake owner) and I think people should have the choice to option a car as they see fit.

 

I'll say this, if I had to get the PP and glass roof, I wouldn't own right now.

 

And as someone who will never own a GT500, . If it's a halo car, it better have the best performance parts from the factory on it from the get-go. Leave only appearance/styling options available for the buyer.
And now for some fanboi silliness after reading that sad letter...
Ford GM ---------------> ZL1 GT500

 

Hey, you guys take the pro-choice, pro-life discussions to the politics and religion section.