Where's the next third installment?

 

just go to automobile mag website

 

Look this is what the proponents of the ZL1 are doing: Since the ZL1 cannot compete in the traditional sense (quarter mile or street racing) with the 2013 GT500, let's change the competition to emphasizing parking lot testing and roadracing! Plus, we give equal value to parking lot testing and roadracing (with 1/4 mile and street racing) and declare that the ZL1 is the victorious and superior (muscle) car! The sooner that zero Mustang fans buy into this strategy, the better. Who in his right mind buys a muscle car to go road racing (for its primary use)? So why place any value on which car is better at roadracing -- let alone parking lot competition)? What I'd also like to know is why does parking lot competition matter any more that mpg matters, or top end matters, or reverse acceleration for another?

 

Lots of people buy these cars for road racing. It's a nice platform, even with the SRA. I bought it for it's handling prowess, not raw power or straight line acceleration.

 

Lot of people? Give me a percentage, please. I am having a really difficult time believing that anybody buys a 4,000 pound supercharged car for roadracing. What sanctioned events can these cars compete in? Is it the Heat Soak 500? Please let me know.
Oh, yes -- here it is:
2011 Sterling Gray 5.0
Brembos | 3.73s | Steeda CAI | Steeda Tuned | FRPP Sport | Fays2 | Steeda Sport | Koni Yellows | Recaro | Ferodo | 275/35 Pilot Super Sports F&R | 12.56 @ 113, 1.98 60' This is your handling prowess, right?

 

Do you also buy a large wrench to use as a hammer?

 

Everyone will have their opinion and their preference. I read the 3rd installment and just laughed when the GT500 lost out because it had too much of a muscle car feel to it. The raw power and sound was inferior to the more sedate ZL1. For everyday driving they felt the ZL1 was better.....of course no mention was made of how poor the sight lines are in the ZL1. I suppose if you prefer a tank for your daily driver the ZL1 is perfect!

 

This...Ford is not putting enough tire on this car. For a car to have a 57/43 weight distribution and only 265s out front when a 285 will fit nicely along with a 305 out back can be worth a huge amount of time. I mean the ZL1s front tires are the width of the GT500s rear.

Of course you run what you brung and I am not surprised with the outcome of the ZL1 outperforming the GT500 on a road coarse. Now a different track may have a different outcome.

I can't wait for the 2015 Stang..

Dave

 

I think the tires are a compromise for daily driving....somewhere in the interviews the SVT makes mention about this.

 

Gotta love this line from the article-
"If quarter-mile times, a 200-mph top speed, horsepower bragging rights, and a raw, muscle-bound feel are what you seek in a muscle car"

WELL WHAT ELSE IS THERE??? It's a MUSCLE CAR, that is what you want!!!

 

I bought it for road course racing...does that make me a *******, or does that mean I wanted a car that (according to Ford and every other review aside from this one) is significantly more well-mannered than previous GT500s, was designed to perform well on the track as well as "street light to street light" performance? The idea that another inch of rubber is going to compensate for the difference in suspension and render the MRS impotent is absurd. The suspension on the ZL1 is better; how much better still remains to be seen, because this review is about as unbiased as the press was in old soviet Russia. Yes it's a muscle car, but if you think that's all the '13 GT500 is, you're not paying attention.

 

I believe its "an" ******* if I'm guessing of the right word

 

What?

In case you didn't notice, I'm talking about the S197 chassis in general. NOT the GT500 alone.

Now you're just making yourself look like a bit of an idiot...

 

Okay I updated the first post with all three installments.

Let the debates continue.

 

The Jalopnik review said 7% of owners track their cars. That's the only real numerical data on the subject I've seen. Seems believable, considering the majority of GT500s are weekend drivers and garage queens.

 

I agree. Heck mine is just a 5.0 and it's a garage queen lol

how much more a gt 500

 

You have guessed...poorly. It begins with "dumb," hence the 'a' and not the 'an.'

 

not even a full second faster...

I believe these are much more closer than this article leads up to believe but in the end this is a good thing because it will only push ford to focus more on handling on the next gt500.

 

No, you're calling names, so you're the idiot, jerkwater. For over four decades the muscle car has been measured by its muscle and not its handling. If it had been measured by its handling, then it would not have been labeled a muscle car. As amazing as the ZL1 suspension may be, it is of secondary importance (at best) in measuring the performance of a muscle car. In fact, especially in this year of $4.00+ per gallon gasoline, why is handling even as important let alone more important than the significant mpg results that the GT500 has over the ZL1 ? Please establish why. I'd love to hear any reason or than the simple fact that Inside Line and Automobile chose to emphasize the handling over any and everything else. Sorry, that doesn't work. Four plus decades of muscle car heritage cannot be dismissed because the media can anoint the ZL1 the better car if handling replaces muscle when evaluating/testing/judging the two cars.

 

Knock it off children.