2013 GT500 @ Nurburgring
6/14/11, 06:06 AM
#81
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Racing drivers drive on the edge 100% of the time. No matter what rear suspension type they have one thing remains true... they will always crash at one point or another!
I do think it's a little short-sighted, though, discounting the benefit of a GOOD IRS setup. Done right, there is no doubt to me that it feels and drives better than a GOOD SRA. But like it was said earlier, I'll take a good solid axle over a mediocre IRS any day. The '03-'04 Cobras come to mind...
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6/14/11, 10:49 AM
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6/14/11, 12:55 PM
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I don't hear a supercharger, either, for that matter. What I do hear is a beast..........although I'm happy to believe the well informed members on here who have stated a 5.8 TVS supercharged mill.
I see LLN also state 2014
I see LLN also state 2014
6/14/11, 02:34 PM
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Listen closely.......at .17 and .36 - you can hear the whine. Just keep replaying it.......LOUD!!!
6/14/11, 03:47 PM
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Point is IRS is not the "magic handling cure-all" the mag rag hypsters and their minions make it out to be. There were a number of wipe outs caused when going over the curbs. Those wheels were still airborne and lost control. Nor did IRS help when the Audi went off the edge of the pavement and hit the wall.
Handling aside, adding the weak link of half shafts resulted in race day over for multiple teams.
IMO that's a wash between theoretical (handling) advantage and practical (weak link) disadvantage.
Ford has proven repeatedly that even with uneven surfaces, SRA traction can be maintained with proper suspension, weight transfer, tires - without problematic half shafts.
6/14/11, 04:11 PM
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TBH, it doesn't really sound any different than my '11. Exhaust volume and tone sounds the same, and the one in the vid was never wound up far enough to hear much blower whine, which is minimal on mine as well until you get past 4000, and by that point the exhaust drowns much of it out.
6/14/11, 04:25 PM
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TBH, it doesn't really sound any different than my '11. Exhaust volume and tone sounds the same, and the one in the vid was never wound up far enough to hear much blower whine, which is minimal on mine as well until you get past 4000, and by that point the exhaust drowns much of it out.
6/14/11, 04:26 PM
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Right.
Point is IRS is not the "magic handling cure-all" the mag rag hypsters and their minions make it out to be. There were a number of wipe outs caused when going over the curbs. Those wheels were still airborne and lost control. Nor did IRS help when the Audi went off the edge of the pavement and hit the wall.
Point is IRS is not the "magic handling cure-all" the mag rag hypsters and their minions make it out to be. There were a number of wipe outs caused when going over the curbs. Those wheels were still airborne and lost control. Nor did IRS help when the Audi went off the edge of the pavement and hit the wall.
Originally Posted by cdynaco
Handling aside, adding the weak link of half shafts resulted in race day over for multiple teams.
IMO that's a wash between theoretical (handling) advantage and practical (weak link) disadvantage.
Ford has proven repeatedly that even with uneven surfaces, SRA traction can be maintained with proper suspension, weight transfer, tires - without problematic half shafts.
IMO that's a wash between theoretical (handling) advantage and practical (weak link) disadvantage.
Ford has proven repeatedly that even with uneven surfaces, SRA traction can be maintained with proper suspension, weight transfer, tires - without problematic half shafts.
The thing the SRA crowd doesn't have going for them is the negative stigma. I spend a lot of time on my 370Z forum educating people on the handling prowess of the 5.0, ox-cart rear end and all. But in the end, that popular opinion will win out, and if Ford wants to keep advancing the Mustang it really has to setup up to an IRS.
The question is, can they do it right? I believe they can, and I really hope that they do.
6/14/11, 04:33 PM
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6/14/11, 04:51 PM
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The fact is, Ford is focusing on handling with the upcoming car, as evident by them taking it to the 'Ring and doing testing. That is good news for all Mustang owners and prospective buyers, as their findings will almost surely trickle down in future product.
6/14/11, 04:53 PM
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Knowing what Ford can do with the Brembo GT, the Boss 302, and the current GT500, I am very excited about the performance of future models.
