2013 Ford Shelby GT500 delivers 650 HP and 200 MPH straight from the factory
#281
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Originally Posted by 07S197
How do you figure? Those LSx engines have proven over and over again to be very strong and capable of building lots of power reliably. Is there something about the engine in this Camaro that I'm not aware of that is different?
#282
LSA doesn't used forged pistons. People have pushed the LSA to surprisingly high power levels on the stock short-block anyway, but I wouldn't be comfortable running the same amount of boost on that engine as I would on the new GT500 short-block which does use forged pistons.
#283
Originally Posted by 07S197
How do you figure? Those LSx engines have proven over and over again to be very strong and capable of building lots of power reliably. Is there something about the engine in this Camaro that I'm not aware of that is different?
#284
Legacy TMS Member
As for stout engine architectures, the ZL-1 just lacks the GT500's forged pistons. So win for the GT500 there but still not worth paying an extra 1,000 dollars per piston.
If the GT500 is coming in at a base of 63k Ford is essentially charging a 8k premium for a car that doesn't come with the longevity enhancing features that are regular equipment on the ZL-1 and if you want them that premium is going to go up.
Sorry guys I love Mustangs and I really love GT500s but if the 2013 starts at nearly 63k (63k would be accpetable for a fully loaded coupe with every option box checked off) that should be throwing up a serious red flag as to where the Mustang and the GT500 are heading in the future and what Ford really thinks about the current owners of both cars and thats to say that Ford apparently doesn't have a problem handing the keys to Chevrolet when it comes to affordable V8 RWD performance cars.
#285
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
LSA uses a cast hypereutectic piston. Not forged.
#286
MOTM Committee Member
Plus the nav and glass roof are $4k options by themselves. pretty significant when comparing price
#288
Originally Posted by bob
Ford apparently doesn't have a problem handing the keys to Chevrolet when it comes to affordable V8 RWD performance cars.
I'm sure that Chevy will screw up the ZL-1. But if they don't even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. I dont trust them as far as I can throw them.
#289
MOTM Committee Member
Its not worth an 8k premium on a chassis thats approaching ten years in age especially when you consider the magnetorheological damper system is more advanced than the Bilstiens fitted to the 2013 PP car and if you want to get into niggling details, the lack of an IRS.
As for stout engine architectures, the ZL-1 just lacks the GT500's forged pistons. So win for the GT500 there but still not worth paying an extra 1,000 dollars per piston.
If the GT500 is coming in at a base of 63k Ford is essentially charging a 8k premium for a car that doesn't come with the longevity enhancing features that are regular equipment on the ZL-1 and if you want them that premium is going to go up.
Sorry guys I love Mustangs and I really love GT500s but if the 2013 starts at nearly 63k (63k would be accpetable for a fully loaded coupe with every option box checked off) that should be throwing up a serious red flag as to where the Mustang and the GT500 are heading in the future and what Ford really thinks about the current owners of both cars and thats to say that Ford apparently doesn't have a problem handing the keys to Chevrolet when it comes to affordable V8 RWD performance cars.
As for stout engine architectures, the ZL-1 just lacks the GT500's forged pistons. So win for the GT500 there but still not worth paying an extra 1,000 dollars per piston.
If the GT500 is coming in at a base of 63k Ford is essentially charging a 8k premium for a car that doesn't come with the longevity enhancing features that are regular equipment on the ZL-1 and if you want them that premium is going to go up.
Sorry guys I love Mustangs and I really love GT500s but if the 2013 starts at nearly 63k (63k would be accpetable for a fully loaded coupe with every option box checked off) that should be throwing up a serious red flag as to where the Mustang and the GT500 are heading in the future and what Ford really thinks about the current owners of both cars and thats to say that Ford apparently doesn't have a problem handing the keys to Chevrolet when it comes to affordable V8 RWD performance cars.
Why not all three?
Oh wait, you can only do one in the camaro
#291
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Originally Posted by stangfoeva
bob you're already arguing price, and nothing has been released yet lol. We'll resume this when the numbers come out
Why not all three?
Oh wait, you can only do one in the camaro
I hope that the ZL1 is a formidable opponent. I really like the rivalry. The LS motor WILL hold up. Can't wait to see the heads up comparison. Standing 1/4 might shock the hell out of some of you.
#293
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
Are you guys seriously debating a cars value without confirmation of an actual amount? Hahaha wow
#299
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
There is something really wrong with you guys.