Your Stang is very nice, with an impressive set of mods.

Don't be so quick to want to trade it in on a GT masquerading in a V6 body with some green paint, a few badges and a bunch of off-the-shelf parts.

 

Well I've been driving for 30+ years and have ZERO accidents.
Living in the Great White North I've seen a lot of snow.
I had a 69 pontiac parisienne, a 75 Cougar XR7 ( talk about front end heavy and light in the rear!!), and a 78 Firebird. With the firebird I put 2 50lb weight plates in the trunk overtop of the rear wheels- it helped a great deal in preventing the rear end from kicking out.

But honestly...no one in their right mind would want to drive these cars day in and day out, not when today's cars handle and perform so much better.

 

I owned a 2000 Mustang "Spring Feature" GT once upon a time. 3,901 were built in 2000. $895 package that included unique polished 17x8 wheels, hood & side scoops (99-00 GT's did not get scoops so this was unique), twin black stripes on the hood with "GT" cutouts, and black rear bumper "MUSTANG" lettering. Only available in white, black, silver (like mine), performance red, and zinc yellow. Zinc Yellow was only available on the Spring Feature GT for 2000, and only 917 were built in that color. No performance upgrades at all - pure cosmetic package. But, mine ran the 1/4 mile in 13.85 @ 97+ bone stock (5-speed manual), so they were still decent performers (260hp, but mine weighed only 3180 lbs).

Zinc Yellow, the hood scoop, and side scoops were added to regular GT's starting in 2001, so the 2000 Spring Feature GT wasn't so special in the long run.

 

If I wanted a sleeper look - something very understated - and absolutely loved the movie Bullitt above all other films, then I'd get the Bullitt.

If I wanted a high profile - look at me everybody - attention getter, then I'd get the Shelby GT.

I personally like the looks of the Shelby GT better, but only the white ones with silver stripes or the classic GT-H Hertz cars in black with gold stripes. But, I like the simplicity and stealth factor of the Bullitt.

I went with the "hey look at me" for my last Mustang (Azure Blue 03 Mach 1), but chose the subtle subdued look for my 07 GT (dark gray, no wing, no chrome or bling, etc.). I almost bought a redfire GT/CS, but just didn't want all the cosmetic fluff this time around. If the Bullitt had been available 13 months ago when I bought my 07 GT, then I would have bought the Bullitt instead.

 

Only costs about $800 total to ship across country. The typical ADM on a limited production car, if there is going to be an ADM worth asking, will be more than this.

We sell cars to Alaskans frequently and send them to the Port of Seattle. We sell to Canadians who have to wait three days at the border going home if they haven't done their paperwork and jumped through all the hoops in advance. We ship cross country to any state in the union. We pick up people at the local airport for free so they can drive their new or used vehicle home to wherever.

Why do all these people pay for airfare or shipping? Cause it doesn't cost nearly as much as you think to do so! You cited "freight, delivery, and shipping costs/fees" which are not three different charges, just three different ways of describing the same charge, which is about $800 to anywhere in the country.

 

Bullitt or SGT?

Well personally I think a car that was upfitted at Shelby Auto has a very unique factor to it. In some ways it's more unique than the GT500 is (since Ford builds the GT500 completely in house).

The Bullitt appeals on a different level- it feels more throwback to me. I think it's upgrades are also a bit better that the SGT, plus I've heard the SGT workmanship is a bit lacking in areas.

I'd pick the Bullitt but the SGT is a pretty close 2nd.

 

I've driven a Shelby GT, a GT-H, and a few GT500's. Seen a bunch of each, as well. The Shelby GT's don't really ride any worse than a regular GT, IMO, but they are much more sure-footed and confidence inspiring in the twisties. The GT500 is very docile feeling around town, but has suprisingly high limits of adhesion considering the high weight and how it's distributed. The best handling modern Mustang I've ever driven, that is magically the nicest riding one as well, it the Saleen Parnelli Jones car (500 built in grabber orange only). Sweet, Shaker-fed 5.0L 3V V8, manual trans, 3.73 gears, and most importantly: Watts Link rear suspension.

As far as cosmetic quality, 1Bullitt is so right! SAI has a tough time making the stripes and scoop look even halfway decent on the GT's and GT-H's, while a Ford built GT500 has much better striping and attention to detail. I still like the SAI converted GT's, but they lack a certain finesse.

 

When a dealership gets an ADM, Ford does not get a piece of it (to use toward offsetting royalites paid as you suggest, or otherwise!). The dealerships don't have to pay the royalties either, so the ADM isn't justified that way, either.

Also, Ford can't "allow" or "disallow" ADM's due to Franchise Agreement laws. Ford can only suggest a price via the legally mandated MSRP (Monroney) sticker. That price is - by definition - just a suggestion (that's what the "S" in MSRP stands for).

By the way, just as Ford has no control over a dealer asking and getting ADM's, Ford also has no control over the much more widespread practice of dealers charging way below MSRP to move slow sellers and be competitive. It's all supply and demand! Charge less than MSRP if that's what it takes to be competitive, or charge MSRP if the market warrants it, or even get an ADM on a hot seller when demand far outstrips supply. Basic Economics 101.

 

What? Nobody's going to say anything bad about the V6 or GT/CS in this thread?

We don't want them to feel left out of the mustang bash fest thread.

You know Camaro guys have got to love how we eat our own.

Oh yeah! SGT RULES (even if you are paying $3223 extra to drive a Shelby)http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...nefit+analysis

 

The V6 is a rental car and the GT/CS is for girlie men.

 

you said you wanted to buy the bullitt or shelby gt. and the reason you could not is that the nearby dealers were all asking above msrp!


i simply stated that if you want to save some money in the purchase of your new car look out of state!
you then state you need to buy local because of trade in!
i told you thats not the case!

you dont need to trade a car in if you have a payment! you simply let the buyer know to meet you at your bank and complete the transaction there! its not hard if you follow the steps. just because you have payments or even a lease that does not mean you cant sell your car privately!

i do agree you dont have the funds to purchase a new car. i would also add that you probably did not have the funds to purchase your last car.

 

That's the spirit!

 

Don't say that!!!! Now you've jinxed yourself!!!

Oh, and everyone knows I've never been in my right mind.....


I'm a righty...

 

Personally, I like the looks of the GT/CS

 

Me too, especially now that they have the spoiler delete option.

Just making light of the constant attacks made on the various mustangs.

 

Yeah I wondered about that too!? I'm going to say I've been accident free for 30+ years of driving and BANG!- I'm going to slam my new Bullitt into hydro pole!

 

Your car does not have to be paid in full to sell it yourself. On your bill of sale, you can easily note that free title will be provided for the buyer once the payoff is received by your current lien holder.

Now, if you're totally upside down (owe more on your car than you can sell it for), then trading in to a dealership may make more sense, or you can pay the difference out-of-pocket to secure a free title for your buyer if you sell it yourself.

 

Excuse me ! but wrong again..I never said, that I was interested in buying either the Shelby GT, or the Bullitt..

My purpose was clearly to point out, my reasons against dealerships adding their greedy ADM markups..every time Ford comes out, with a limited production Mustang SE..

As I was just using the GT500, Shelby GT, and the Bullitt, as examples and nothing more..

In fact.. it was Brian and yourself, that assumed I was interested in buying a Bullitt..when you both brought up, the shipping out of state options..

And even if I wanted to sell my car ! the fact is...Being that I still owe $9575.64..By the time the car was sold..I'd be lucky, to just break even..

So why in the hell.. would I want to end up, starting from scratch all over again..When in 2 years, I'll own my current 05 GT. free and clear

The bottom line is..If I'm going to wind up going further in debt ! I'd much rather hold out towards either the new Boss/Mach 1, or wait until the all new Huntsman Mustang debuts, in mid 2011..

At least then, I'd actually own a SE Mustang.. that offers some real performance, over my current 05 GT..

That being said, neither the Shelby GT, or the Bullitt..are able to out perform my current GT..Therefore it makes far more practicle sense, not to get rid of it..

 

OK, so let's rephrase our side of things. You (m05fastbackGT) do not want to trade your car - we understand that now.

So, in general, someone (not you) who may be considering a Bullitt who has a trade-in, may still be better off avoiding his/her (not your) local ADM-hungry Ford dealer and shop in a little wider radius (even nationwide). Even after paying for a 1-way plane ticket or shipping, the average guy/gal (not you) may very well come out ahead versus feeding his/her (not your) local dealer an ADM. And he/she (not you) can handle his/her (not your) trade-in locally by selling outright or on consignment.

 

Well in that case, the dealerships will use the same old limited production numbers..once again, as their excuse for adding ADM markups..Basic Greed Techniques 101.