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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Whammer
Hmmm, you post a lot of negatives regarding the Bullitt [with no first hand experience...


I had a dream, I've had these before...
- 1968 GT
- 1982 GT
- 1988 GT
- 1999 GT 35th Anniversary Edition
- 2000 GT Spring Edition
- 2001 Bullitt GT
- 2002 GT
- 2003 Mach 1
- 2003 Mach 1
- 2004 Cobra
- 2006 GT
- 2007 GT500
- 2007 GT500

I had another dream, my wife had these before...
- 1968 V8 vert
- 1989 GT vert
- 2002 GT vert
- 2006 GT vert
- 2008 ???

Then, I woke up. You're are right! I have no first hand experience.


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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Whammer
The 08 Bullitt is better in every single way and would be a pleasure to drive every single day.


Perhaps you should buy one.

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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Whammer
Hmmm, you post a lot of negatives regarding the Bullitt with no first hand experience.
But let's not go down that road again.

I think most can objectively see that the GT500 is lacking in handling. Every review I have read on that car mentions that it's front end heavy and isn't very nimble on corners.
The video with the Roush stage 3 offers up some visual proof of how the 2 cars compare handling wise. The Roush simply out drives the GT500.
would you like to see a video of the gt500 driving around a 996gt3 a couple c5 z06's and and c6 z06?

those who have both the 07/08 mustang svt and the 03/04 mustang svt will agree that the gt500 has a softer suspension yet sticks much better through the corners. one said he believed the gt500 would be faster around a road course than the stock 2000r! yes the gt500 can turn and turn effectively in stock form.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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would you like to see a video of the gt500 driving around a 996gt3 a couple c5 z06's and and c6 z06?

those who have both the 07/08 mustang svt and the 03/04 mustang svt will agree that the gt500 has a softer suspension yet sticks much better through the corners. one said he believed the gt500 would be faster around a road course than the stock 2000r! yes the gt500 can turn and turn effectively in stock form.
Was it Jeremy Clarkson who said it seemed like teh GT500 had no suspension upgrades at all, and it handled horribly in the 'twisties'?

Obviously it has had suspension and handling upgrades, but in the video it didn't look like it was doing so well. Maybe it's just the car they gave him or his driving.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
No offense Michael, however GT500's are still 15k above MSRP around here, along with Shelby GT's, being marked at 8k above..

And according to my stealership..He claims that as long as demand remains strong..The ADM markups, will remain the same..


As for the Bullitt ! I'm also quite certain..they'll be marking it up, pretty close to the Shelby GT..

Therefore, I'll believe it..when I see it. lol

If you can't find GT500s for less than a $15k mark-up, you need to check around. Just the Mustang forums demonstrate that most GT500s are being sold for MSRP (if you are very lucky) and $5k over (for most everyone else). And I think MSRP for the remaining 07 Shelby GTs is THE RULE, not the exception to the rule, these days.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by on d bit
i dont understand this statement, right between in terms of what you get too.

the bullitt has everything the shelby gt offers in terms of performance for 8k less! oh your right it does not come with the hurst shifter. that alone is worth the 8k bucks!


and in terms of price, why only search the local market? if one can save the adm or more by looking in nebraska during the winter why would you not do that? in this day of internet searches, faxing paperwork, and wiring funds its very easy to purchase a car out of state. and it happens all the time now as well!
"Right between, in terms of what you get, too." It means the additional modifications are MORE than the GT and LESS than the GT500. I'm not talking solely about the horsepower ratings, which are close, but also the appearance package, IUP, suspension mods, etc. There is certainly some "added price" for the Shelby label, too, but I think the argument about paying $8k for the name alone (or the Hurst shifter alone) has been disproved on multiple other threads.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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And of course, you post this data because YOU do have first hand experience driving the GT500 and along with your expert opinion your assessment must then be factual.


Personally I can't believe some of the poor reviews of the GT500 handling.
You own two, have you done a write up on handling here? If so could you point the way to it, if not could you do write an honest assessment?

The only GT 500 I've seen first hand was a new convertible. Very nice car. The owner said he missed doing something for his mid-life crisis so he was doing something for his late-life crisis. Pretty funny.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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10/2006 road america

tuned gt500 with cat back....stock suspension. track weight and more about his car here, post #48...http://svtperformance.com/forums/sho...=329173&page=2

and time for the vid. gt3 pass at 6 minutes, c6 z pass at 11 minutes!
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...650024d103.htm
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Benzito
"Right between, in terms of what you get, too." It means the additional modifications are MORE than the GT and LESS than the GT500. I'm not talking solely about the horsepower ratings, which are close, but also the appearance package, IUP, suspension mods, etc. There is certainly some "added price" for the Shelby label, too, but I think the argument about paying $8k for the name alone (or the Hurst shifter alone) has been disproved on multiple other threads.
you said you get more modifications on the shelby gt than the 08 bullitt. this is incorrect! yes you get the short shift in the shelby but you also get the 3.73gears in the bullitt. my point being the bullitt and the shelby gt are the same car but at two far different price tags!
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
The 2008 Bullitt, may be a bargain at 31k MSRP..However by the time our greedy Ford stealerships, add their ADM markups..

You'll more than likely be looking at around 37-39k

So the question is.. for just a CAI, 373 gears, and calibration to allow both regular or premium fuel..Will the 2008 Bullitt, truly be a bargain ?

Well as far as I'm concerned..It sure in the hell won't at 37-39k
Maybe not ... A dealer's auction on E-bay beginning at mid-30K for a 2008 BULLITT just closed with only one simple bid I think and NO SALE. Like one member of IMBOC just said, "the market has spoken ... NO ADM(s)".

I'd still pay higher than 31K for the 2008 BULLITT if it had a 5.4 engine.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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My handling assessment, not to be confused with a professional comparisson, is to the '04 Cobra vs the GT500 in identical locations, road conditions, and speeds. I cannot post which one has the advantage since both cars' responses reflected total control up to 35 - 40 mph over highway speeds but not over that mark. Both models can absorb 90 degree turns at 50 - 55 mph on a 30 to 35' wide road with all the wheels planted on the pavement. Both cars have taken what I have given them and probably could take more but I do know my limitations and abilities and don't go beyond those points. The '01 Bullitt responded similar but with a bit of under steering.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by on d bit
you said you get more modifications on the shelby gt than the 08 bullitt. this is incorrect! yes you get the short shift in the shelby but you also get the 3.73gears in the bullitt. my point being the bullitt and the shelby gt are the same car but at two far different price tags!
Yes, I agree with you fully on this point. The Shelby GT is comparable yet WAAAAAY overpriced. I'd agree the 2008 BULLITT as-offered is a better buy than the Shelby GT. Interesting ... I heard once the 2008 BULLITT production begins the Shelby GT produciton will cease ... (???)

I can't agree on the gears though, but only because I can either do these myself or have them done, but yes, for a factory option the Shelby GT should have the 3.73 gears especially for the exhorbitant price tag (or at least offer those gears as a pencil-in option).

Although nobody seems to touch on this point, I still think the 2008 BULLITT should be offered with an automatic if they are only going to offer the 4.6 engine. I say this mostly for those folks that for whatever reason would pass on a 2008 BULLITT if they couldn't get it with an automatic.

What do you think?
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
Maybe not ... A dealer's auction on E-bay beginning at mid-30K for a 2008 BULLITT just closed with only one simple bid I think and NO SALE. Like one member of IMBOC just said, "the market has spoken ... NO ADM(s)".

I'd still pay higher than 31K for the 2008 BULLITT if it had a 5.4 engine.
m05fastbackGT is hung up on ADMs

Yes you would be paying higher than 31K for a Bullitt with a 5.4 engine.

There have been a few new GT500 engines on eBay, just for you ready to put in your 2008 Bullitt.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Of course, you can always make the argument that there are easily 7700 people out there who would happily pay that extra expense for a Bullitt with REAL power.

I'd be very curious to know what Ford paid to Warner Bros. for the licensing rights on this car.
This has got to be one of the most constructive points I've seen yet on the HP issue ... GOOD ONE ~ !!!

As for the royalties I have heard on IMBOC it was around $1,000 per unit. It's like you can't win; you get hit with the US Government gas-guzzler tax or you get hit with the Bugs Bunny tax ... ???
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RCSignals
m05fastbackGT is hung up on ADMs

Yes you would be paying higher than 31K for a Bullitt with a 5.4 engine.

There have been a few new GT500 engines on eBay, just for you ready to put in your 2008 Bullitt.

ROFLMAO ...

RC I will pray for you my BROTHER ... (I think you're more insane than I am ... NOT GOOD).
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by on d bit
you said you get more modifications on the shelby gt than the 08 bullitt. this is incorrect!
If this is what I typed I made an error (my apologies) ... I was probably referring to the GT 500 with the bigger engine.

NO ... I don't expect anyone to read my so-called "mind" ... I'll try to be more careful when I edit what I write from now on.

Again ... my apologies.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
It's like you can't win; you get hit with the US Government gas-guzzler tax or you get hit with the Bugs Bunny tax ... ???
'Bugs Bunny Tax'.

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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by on d bit
you said you get more modifications on the shelby gt than the 08 bullitt. this is incorrect! yes you get the short shift in the shelby but you also get the 3.73gears in the bullitt. my point being the bullitt and the shelby gt are the same car but at two far different price tags!
I don't think we really disagree on the main point about overall performance.

The only thing I was saying is that the Bullitt is nowhere close to "the same car" as the Shelby GT. Performance may be similar in the end, but there is much more difference than simply a shifter and gearing.

My prior post was referring to the non-mechanical add-ons for the SGT. The Bullitt is, by its identity, a dressed-down sleeper. The SGT has an added appearance package with the nose, rear fascia, scoops, hood, etc. and a slightly lower stance because of its suspension. The build sheets would show the specifics.
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TXBLUOVAL
This has got to be one of the most constructive points I've seen yet on the HP issue ... GOOD ONE ~ !!!

As for the royalties I have heard on IMBOC it was around $1,000 per unit. It's like you can't win; you get hit with the US Government gas-guzzler tax or you get hit with the Bugs Bunny tax ... ???
Gas guzzler tax is a big joke . . . Bush was just on TV saying we need to keep spending money to get our economy back on track. Then they want to tax us for the privilege of paying $3.50 a gallon? I'm just trying to do my part for the betterment of the country, people!
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Old Nov 23, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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I had a dream, I've had these before...
- 1968 GT
- 1982 GT
- 1988 GT
- 1999 GT 35th Anniversary Edition
- 2000 GT Spring Edition
- 2001 Bullitt GT
- 2002 GT
- 2003 Mach 1
- 2003 Mach 1
- 2004 Cobra
- 2006 GT
- 2007 GT500
- 2007 GT500

I had another dream, my wife had these before...
- 1968 V8 vert
- 1989 GT vert
- 2002 GT vert
- 2006 GT vert
- 2008 ???

Then, I woke up. You're are right! I have no first hand experience.


Ahh that's not was I was talking about. You have no first hand experience with an 08 Bullitt, just as some have no first hand experience with a GT500.
The point was being made that the GT500 doesn't handle well- and you didn't like that criticism, hence your first hand experience comment.
I like the GT500 but the truth is it doesn't handle well- or at least as well as you would expect from a car with it's high price tag.
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