Bullitt Option now in Ford Order Banks (July 11th 2007)
now there's a cynical attitude.
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Well, I dunno about anyone else, but if the Bullitt says "Shelby" on it, I wouldn't want it.
I might like chicken soup...AND Manhattan clam chowder. Doesn't mean I want 'em schmooshed together.
I might like chicken soup...AND Manhattan clam chowder. Doesn't mean I want 'em schmooshed together.
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Yall don't think they could have done a better job on the 01 model? They put a tranny that always breaks, They could have givin alot more power over a GT but didn't. When I think of special models there supposed to be BadA** More Import cars make better power than so called muscle. Dodge gets the power thing , Chevy gets it, but ford I dont know they have to out source everything they dont have a 400+ HP car that is available to the average jo that they can call there own It says Shelby on it and because of dealer mark up is outa my range 70,000+ local 40-50g sticker. If ford would make there own 400+hp Model as an option I am sure they could bring the price down to the 30s but for some reason they can't figure this out. I just think they should up there game.
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It better not be Shelby made. Half the Shelby GT's that arrive on our lot have paint or body damage right off the enclosed cargo carrier. I have not been impressed with them recently. Shelby will charge quite a bit to upfit the car as well. I don't see why they would not be able to just add an extra step on the assembly line and do it at the plant.
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They improved the horsepower and flattened out the torque curve to give it quicker accleration that the GT. People who dyno them were showing closer to 270-273hp and 310 ft-lb of torque at the crank, despite their ratings. That power level slotted between the GT and the Cobra of the time.
Are you talking about power exclusively?
Were there other cars in 2001 from Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, or Mitsubishi, Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes-Benz or Audi that had the power level of the Bullitt in the price range? I believe the only competitive cars were the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Firebird at that time. They were on the way out of production then.
The last SN-95 Cobra was not "outsourced". It was a 400hp car at what was then considered a reasonable price.
I am certain they have plenty of ideas about how to deliver it. At this point, the funding for running a limited production 400hp model, based on their overall company situation and their current competition, most likely puts them where they are. As many have specualted, when the new Camaro and Challenger come out, there will be competition again. However, the higher horsepower models are expected to be into the 30s and most likely dealer markups will be the norm as they are first being produced.
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They put in one that was used across the V8 Mustang line at the time. Eventually TSBs were issued to address the problem of crunching gears.
They improved the horsepower and flattened out the torque curve to give it quicker accleration that the GT. People who dyno them were showing closer to 270-273hp and 310 ft-lb of torque at the crank, despite their ratings. That power level slotted between the GT and the Cobra of the time.
It still should have been in the 300hp range and 350 ft-lbs
Are you talking about power exclusively?
Yes and needs to sit a little lower. All I am saying is when someone sees my bullit and starts to ask about it then I tell them them power rating this is what they do
I tell them the other things that make it diff but they still don't see a change between the GT
Were there other cars in 2001 from Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, or Mitsubishi, Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes-Benz or Audi that had the power level of the Bullitt in the price range? I believe the only competitive cars were the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Firebird at that time. They were on the way out of production then.
I was more so talking about the new one on this if they dont up the power or put a bigger motor it will be a sad day for ford. I would rather have american cars make american power not this crappy horse power for so much money because they dont want to **** the green team off! I don't care if the world is not here in 1000 years it was fun while it lasted!
Dodge has the HEMI but it is not available in any coupe models. Chevy does have a fantastic V8 engine, but it is in the $40,000+ Corvette.
If dodge can put a 400hp motor in a station wagon than ford can put one in the only affordible sports car they have.
Chevy has the corvette and for 40+ thousand it is a bada**
But what I am saying to keep up with chevy and dodge ford is going to have to wake the hell up, Or they will be out alot of money.
The last SN-95 Cobra was not "outsourced". It was a 400hp car at what was then considered a reasonable price.
But That is outa date
Yep, and that stinks.
I don't want it to be shelby eather but if of the three rou, sal, or shelby can help give this car some attitude I think I would rather keep my 01 atlest it is paid off and I can slap a cobra motor in there or bulid a built and supercharged 4.6l then I would be happy till I can buy some thing faster.
I am certain they have plenty of ideas about how to deliver it. At this point, the funding for running a limited production 400hp model, based on their overall company situation and their current competition, most likely puts them where they are. As many have specualted, when the new Camaro and Challenger come out, there will be competition again. However, the higher horsepower models are expected to be into the 30s and most likely dealer markups will be the norm as they are first being produced.
They improved the horsepower and flattened out the torque curve to give it quicker accleration that the GT. People who dyno them were showing closer to 270-273hp and 310 ft-lb of torque at the crank, despite their ratings. That power level slotted between the GT and the Cobra of the time.
It still should have been in the 300hp range and 350 ft-lbs
Are you talking about power exclusively?
Yes and needs to sit a little lower. All I am saying is when someone sees my bullit and starts to ask about it then I tell them them power rating this is what they do
I tell them the other things that make it diff but they still don't see a change between the GT Were there other cars in 2001 from Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, or Mitsubishi, Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes-Benz or Audi that had the power level of the Bullitt in the price range? I believe the only competitive cars were the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Firebird at that time. They were on the way out of production then.
I was more so talking about the new one on this if they dont up the power or put a bigger motor it will be a sad day for ford. I would rather have american cars make american power not this crappy horse power for so much money because they dont want to **** the green team off! I don't care if the world is not here in 1000 years it was fun while it lasted!
Dodge has the HEMI but it is not available in any coupe models. Chevy does have a fantastic V8 engine, but it is in the $40,000+ Corvette.
If dodge can put a 400hp motor in a station wagon than ford can put one in the only affordible sports car they have.
Chevy has the corvette and for 40+ thousand it is a bada**
But what I am saying to keep up with chevy and dodge ford is going to have to wake the hell up, Or they will be out alot of money.
The last SN-95 Cobra was not "outsourced". It was a 400hp car at what was then considered a reasonable price.
But That is outa date
Yep, and that stinks.
I don't want it to be shelby eather but if of the three rou, sal, or shelby can help give this car some attitude I think I would rather keep my 01 atlest it is paid off and I can slap a cobra motor in there or bulid a built and supercharged 4.6l then I would be happy till I can buy some thing faster.
I am certain they have plenty of ideas about how to deliver it. At this point, the funding for running a limited production 400hp model, based on their overall company situation and their current competition, most likely puts them where they are. As many have specualted, when the new Camaro and Challenger come out, there will be competition again. However, the higher horsepower models are expected to be into the 30s and most likely dealer markups will be the norm as they are first being produced.
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They improved the horsepower and flattened out the torque curve to give it quicker accleration that the GT. People who dyno them were showing closer to 270-273hp and 310 ft-lb of torque at the crank, despite their ratings. That power level slotted between the GT and the Cobra of the time.
It still should have been in the 300hp range and 350 ft-lbs
Yes and needs to sit a little lower. All I am saying is when someone sees my bullit and starts to ask about it then I tell them them power rating this is what they do
I tell them the other things that make it diff but they still don't see a change between the GT Were there other cars in 2001 from Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, or Mitsubishi, Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes-Benz or Audi that had the power level of the Bullitt in the price range? I believe the only competitive cars were the Chevy Camaro and Pontiac Firebird at that time. They were on the way out of production then.
Chevy has the corvette and for 40+ thousand it is a bada**
But what I am saying to keep up with chevy and dodge ford is going to have to wake the hell up, Or they will be out alot of money.
The last SN-95 Cobra was not "outsourced". It was a 400hp car at what was then considered a reasonable price.
But That is outa date
I don't want it to be shelby eather but if of the three rou, sal, or shelby can help give this car some attitude I think I would rather keep my 01 atlest it is paid off and I can slap a cobra motor in there or bulid a built and supercharged 4.6l then I would be happy till I can buy some thing faster.
I am certain they have plenty of ideas about how to deliver it. At this point, the funding for running a limited production 400hp model, based on their overall company situation and their current competition, most likely puts them where they are. As many have specualted, when the new Camaro and Challenger come out, there will be competition again. However, the higher horsepower models are expected to be into the 30s and most likely dealer markups will be the norm as they are first being produced.
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WTF??? 2001 Bullitt was a labor of love for Team Mustang. If they did such a "crappy" job why do several magazine articles at the time say it was the best Mustang Ford built in terms of performance, looks and handling. An entire package. It wasn't built to be the fastest, a balance of all of the features. It was a commemorative car. It doesn't say Boss of Mach on the side so it was not meant to be an all out speedster.
If it is so 'crappy" sell yours and buy something that won't get beat every time you take it out.....
If it is so 'crappy" sell yours and buy something that won't get beat every time you take it out.....
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