Small yes. Sporty? Hardly. Not with the wheezer HP it "sported."

 

Im just going to wait until the official news comes out, and I see one.

 

I still think SAI doing the Bullitt is still a possibility. SAI has experience with the Shelby GT conversions (based on what we know about the bullitt package, it seems very similiar to SGT conversions) and it would appear that they are going to have excess capacity at their facility (finishing the 08 SGTs by Dec 07).

 

I certainly hope not. Concerning quality of the four parts Shelby Autos designed for the GT-H and the Shelby, two they screwed up, the other two are is questionable.

Face it, Shelby Autos relates to their West Coast affiliates a lot better than to the likes of SVT and Team Mustang.

 

JMO but you may need to change that smilie to "a rolling on the floor and crying" :rofc: cause I think this may have legs.

PS: As a future owner of a SAI product, I hear and share your concerns about SAI quality (I read about every single SGT issue on the SAI forums), Yes it would have been better to have done it right in the 1st place and they probably bit off more than they should have, but that is water under the bridge.

I've heard from several SGT customers that have worked with the SAI staff (these aren't Caroll Shelby sycophants but customers with issues that they want fixed fast and right), and those that have made the trip out to the SAI facility have had nothing but positive things to say on how hard they are trying to fix problems and work with customers. It may not be pretty but it's getting better.

I know some will never accept/like anything from SAI and I respect their right to have that opinion. If this turns out to be true (Bullitt built by SAI) then I guess they won't be driving 2008.5 Bullitts. Life goes on.

 

The Bullitt is being built by Ford at AAI. There is no reason to have Shelby build it.

 

I don't think I will.

I see things the way they are although I can understand the reasons why you and other Shelby fans are willing to turn a blind eye to the reality of their concepts and approch to the aftermarket business. From your persistance on the subject it seem you would like nothing better than to have Shelby Autos spoil the party for the BULLITT fans, sort of like taking an eye out to see someone else blind, whether it affects you or not.

I would be very disappointed if Ford allows a has been organiztion with questionable practices to be involved with the BULLITT. If anything, Roush would be the appropriate company Ford should deal with since they have the means, talent, experience, and commitment to do so.

 

George you are off the "mark" (no pun intended). The only reason I resurrected this subject was because someone recently told me that they heard there were "talks" between SAI and Ford about this very issue. He mentioned it to me not knowing I had had the same thought about a month ago. Then I heard from another source today saying something along the same lines.

I'm not hoping that SAI "spoils the party for the Bullitt fans" because I'm a Bullitt fan myself. While I don't share your lowly opinion of SAI, I hope that Ford does build it in house, because, quite frankly, I don't want to hear all the whining and *****ing if SAI did build the Bullitt.

I truely hope that the Bullitt ends up with more than this 54B $1895 cosmetic package would lend us to believe, and I hope it has some no kidding performance upgrades. He11, I hope it blows the doors off my Shelby GT and costs at least $5K less.

Now I do admit that I was you about the Bullitt being made by SAI (my comment about you rolling on the floor crying), because I know how you feel about both the Bullitt and SAI. Just having some fun. Don't take me so seriously.
I'm not a Shelby fanatic, I don't hate SVT, and I don't wish ill of anyone on here.
Mwilson seems to know for sure that Ford will build it in house. I hope he's right and I hope I wrong (I'm sure I am)
I'm the same guy that thought the Orange SGTs were Terlingua Race cars (wrong) and thought Ford would sell 18000 mustangs in Jul (wrong! the sold less than 11K).

 

Ford now understands the merritt of their products (see GT500 for reference). They further understand the Shelby name does not instantly turn to gold (see Shelby GT and West Coast Custom offerings for references).

Your position is "... I don't want to hear all the whining and *****ing if SAI did build the Bullitt..." yet it seems to be acceptable for you to be the BULLITT's self appointed Grim Ripper. You are exercising the very fundamentals of your criticism. No pun intended.

 

Self appointed Grim Ripper?

I'm done.

 

Shelby would have to be involved in the whole process not just building them. I have heard no mention of Shelby in any of the information I have gotten. I have had some make reference to the fact that Roush built the 01 show car....... Everything I have been told is the Bullitt will be a Ford built product all be it with off the shelf parts.

 

Ford can easily do the Bullitt in house. Much quicker turn-around time, cheaper to build and sell, less delays, etc. I'd be very surprised if SAI did this car.

 

Well... According to HTT, Ford is not quicker. I remember watching the video of the meeting on Bold Moves when HTT said it would take a minimum of 2 years for Ford to gear up for production on the Shelby GT. That is why Shelby got the call in the first place. I still am waiting for someone to show me what parts couldn’t have been put on at Flat Rock. Yes, it should be cheaper to build and sell coming from Flat Rock and yes, I do expect the Bullitt to be built at Flat Rock. Just remains to be seen if Ford can get it together.

 

Given what Ford did with the '01 Bullitt's in house I don't see why they can't/won't do it again with the '08's. They are already running V6, GT, GT/CS, and the GT500's out of Flat Rock.
They got some pre-production help from Roush on the '01's and if anyone helps with the '08's my guess is it wold be them again.

 

At that point in time, when the Mustang had not been in production for long at AAI, that might have been the case. I suspect more of the time was that required to go through the funding, approval, and testing processes, based on what they were potentially going to deliver with multiple cars - the GT-H coupe and convertible, Shelby GT coupe and convertible.

I imagine much has changed since the time that was presented.

 

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Remember that it's a bit early to know what the final Bullitt package will include. I'm sure Ford will do something in regards to handling. It's all a little sketchy yet.

 

Yes, actually you're correct about the time factor. I just hoped that Ford learned from SAI that doing the Upfitter pkg. from Shelby was not too tough and could do this process themselves at the Flat Rock facility. And I am stunned as well why Ford couldn't have done the Shelby GT's in house, but I guess they wouldn't be Shelbys. As far as the Bullitt goes, it wouldn't be very hard to train the assembly line workers to install a run of specialty components just like they did with the GT500.

 

I don't think it was assembly that was the biggest bottleneck - I believe it had more to do with funding and management approval. It also perhaps something to do with the necessary certification of the updated engine programming.

This is all my speculation, based on experience working for a large coporation and knowing that funding and timing rules the day when making decisions to do limited edition production.

If what happens with the Bullitt's projected performance changes in the engine department (gears plus a dialing back of the horsepower) comes to pass, I would suspect that Ford management did not want to make a commitment based on their product development processes at the time that video was filmed. I don't think they would have wanted to run a Mustang within range of the GT that was a gas guzzler.

I maintain things are different at this point, such that speculation about Shelby doing installation of performance modifications to make a Bullitt does not consider other factors about which we don't know.

 

Dont worry they will do a crappy job just like the 01 model.