will 2011 have the 5.0 for sure?? how sure?
11/25/08, 01:36 PM
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Those "who know stuff" have said that the GDI won't be on the 5.0 the first year; it'll be PFI. If that is the case, then the fuel economy improvements won't be available initially. Probably be worse than the 4.6, if it has the full 400 HP out of the box...
11/25/08, 02:43 PM
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Unless both gearboxes (auto and manual) gain an extra gear. Then I would venture to say that the fuel economy would be comparable to the 3V 4.6. I don't have any data backing that up; that's just my thought.
11/25/08, 03:30 PM
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Oh heck that sucks! I want direct injection! 
11/25/08, 03:38 PM
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11/25/08, 08:15 PM
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I'll give you one reason why it WILL come out. Think about this, Ford spend Millions on the development on the motor, and Millions on testing and such. To have the motor be basically "ready" then to cancel it, would be a waste of all that capital that went into the program. Its one thing to cancel a project before the money really gets used, but to cancel a program when the item is about a year from going on sale is bad business. They'll come out with it, so they can make money with it, and get money back into the company.
Just for the record, I'm questioning the HP more than the engine itself. And everyone should be aware of the HP exaggerations that Ford gave us in the past (remember the 99 Cobra?) that would cause them to probably be more careful in the future.
If you guys say 400 HP, then okay with me. If it's less, you can bet I'll have a few words for all of you "insiders". LOL
11/25/08, 08:17 PM
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If this 5.0 is coming for sure in 2011 then there probably are some "mule" engines out there in development right? I have not heard anything about engines secretly being tested. Anybody know where this engine is as far as development, for sure?
11/25/08, 08:28 PM
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Just for the record, I'm questioning the HP more than the engine itself. And everyone should be aware of the HP exaggerations that Ford gave us in the past (remember the 99 Cobra?) that would cause them to probably be more careful in the future.
If you guys say 400 HP, then okay with me. If it's less, you can bet I'll have a few words for all of you "insiders". LOL
If you guys say 400 HP, then okay with me. If it's less, you can bet I'll have a few words for all of you "insiders". LOL
11/25/08, 10:19 PM
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If you haven't read, Ford is the most solvent of all 3. They have the $$$ for business for good while yet (2010). Plus, as Boomer mentioned in a previous post, the new 5.0 is gonna be more fuel efficent than the current 4.6 and 5.4 V8s. You can't keep motors that get worse economy in production, when you got a better motor ready. This alone is why its gonna happen.
11/25/08, 10:24 PM
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Let me ask you this? How do you know those 2010 mules driving around DON'T have the new 5.0 in them? You can't see the motor through the hood, lol. And your sure as hell know Ford won't get caught with the hood up on one in a spy shot. Engine testing is the easiest thing to do, since no one can see it.
11/25/08, 10:26 PM
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Same with the Terminators. They said 390? I heard as much as 440hp to the flywheel.
11/26/08, 05:55 AM
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Just for the record, I'm questioning the HP more than the engine itself. And everyone should be aware of the HP exaggerations that Ford gave us in the past (remember the 99 Cobra?) that would cause them to probably be more careful in the future.
If you guys say 400 HP, then okay with me. If it's less, you can bet I'll have a few words for all of you "insiders". LOL
If you guys say 400 HP, then okay with me. If it's less, you can bet I'll have a few words for all of you "insiders". LOL
11/26/08, 06:39 AM
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Yeah, no kidding it was 10 years ago. Did you think that Ford would dare put out a Mustang with lower than advertised HP after that PR mess? BTW, it made news in the big car rags (Motor Trend, Car and Driver, etc...) and some even went as far as to dyno later Mustangs to make sure they were making the advertised HP. I think it was Car and Driver that dynoed the '03 Cobra to verify that it was making the HP that Ford claimed. If I remember correctly, the results were dead on to the advertised HP. They even verified it using a coastdown test to determine drivetrain losses.
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11/26/08, 08:02 AM
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If you haven't read, Ford is the most solvent of all 3. They have the $$$ for business for good while yet (2010). Plus, as Boomer mentioned in a previous post, the new 5.0 is gonna be more fuel efficent than the current 4.6 and 5.4 V8s. You can't keep motors that get worse economy in production, when you got a better motor ready. This alone is why its gonna happen.
Like I said earlier, GM and Chrysler have cut transmission and engine programs too that are better than current models in terms of efficiency.
In the end, it all depends on the economy. Analysts say that car sales won't return to normal unitl 2011/2012. My original point is that nothing is guaranteed in this economy.
11/26/08, 08:08 AM
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I have seen a couple of spy pics of Ford testing the 5.0 V8 in some mules. At least that's what they thought it was since the tailpipes were different, and there was a bulge in the hood. 
I just hope it has direct injection to start off with!
I just hope it has direct injection to start off with!
If you haven't read, Ford is the most solvent of all 3. They have the $$$ for business for good while yet (2010). Plus, as Boomer mentioned in a previous post, the new 5.0 is gonna be more fuel efficent than the current 4.6 and 5.4 V8s. You can't keep motors that get worse economy in production, when you got a better motor ready. This alone is why its gonna happen.
11/26/08, 08:48 AM
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Huh? How can you tell the type of engine from the tailpipes? There is a bulge in the hood of the 2010 anyway. They wouldn't of designed the 2010 the way it currently is if the 5.0 didn't fit.