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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
You want above a GT? You'll DEFINATELY want to wait on the SE....

I don't know what price point it will come in at though unfortunately, and what any stupid markups will be....
I'd be more interested in the price point of a base 5.0. And at what trim level I can get a track pack.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
You want above a GT? You'll DEFINATELY want to wait on the SE....

I don't know what price point it will come in at though unfortunately, and what any stupid markups will be....
Ay, there's the rub...
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Well, i'm one of the few people going to buy a 2011 V-6 with an automatic transmisssion (bad left leg). With the larger standard brakes, near 50/50 weight distribution and 30 highway m.p.g. i feel it's the car for me. At my old age (56), i don't need 412 horsepower. 305 is all i'll ever need. They are a couple V-6 Camaro's in my area that i hope to come across with in the near future.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by David Young
They are a couple V-6 Camaro's in my area that i hope to come across with in the near future.
You should be able to spank GT's up to 2004 as well if they are stock.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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I may not be getting a 2011 after all. Coming from a 2000 V6 Auto that I have driven the CRAP out of (and it is actually in the shop right now getting a seized plug pulled out of the head ), I drove a leftover 2009 GT and a 2010 GT yesterday with my dad, and this is more than enough car for me at this point. I have driven stick before, but not for an extended period of time so I have my hands full enough with 315 hp. I will wait 2 more weeks to see what the pricing on the 2011s will be, but I'm thinking I will be picking up a 2010 within the next month or two so I can save up a bit more for a down payment.

I am going to keep the V6 as my project car now that my dad is retired. We are going to finish all the plans I had for it, fully built SSM 4.2 stroker with M112 adapter and FRPP Whipple, finish the MM suspension stuff that I started, and full repaint in Laser Red with a matte clearcoat. Work on things on the weekends, GT as the DD. The GT will get my stereo, exhaust, wheels and lowered and that will be it. Funny to have a GT as a DD and V6 as a project car huh?

It really depends on the price difference between what I can get a 2010 for, and what I can order a 2011 for though. I haven't found a 2010 that has exactly what I want on it, and this being my first new car purchase I don't really want to compromise. I wish I could have ordered a 2010 before the cut off. Oh well...we'll see.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by eci
You should be able to spank GT's up to 2004 as well if they are stock.
How do you figure? I used to own a 2000 Mustang GT (5-speed coupe). 100% factory stock on the stock tires I ran 13.80's @ 99 mph in the 1/4 mile. You think the new 2011 Mustang V6 is going to spank that? It might come close to matching it, but will not spank it.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
How do you figure?
The new 6 has 60+ hp on an older GT; on paper, it should win. But I'll wait for a magazine to make a few 1/4 mile passes with the new car before I pass judgement.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
How do you figure? I used to own a 2000 Mustang GT (5-speed coupe). 100% factory stock on the stock tires I ran 13.80's @ 99 mph in the 1/4 mile. You think the new 2011 Mustang V6 is going to spank that? It might come close to matching it, but will not spank it.
Factory freak on a perfect track on perfect day with perfect driving.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WaltM
The new 6 has 60+ hp on an older GT; on paper, it should win. But I'll wait for a magazine to make a few 1/4 mile passes with the new car before I pass judgement.
Yes, the '11 has 45 more hp than a 99-04 GT, but it also has 37 less lb ft of torque than a 99-04 GT. Horsepower may sell cars, but torque wins races! Plus, my '00 GT only weighed 3,180 lbs (3,350 with me in it), whereas the '11 Mustang weighs about 400 lbs more!

So, less torque and 400 lbs heavier tells me that the '11 V6 is not gonna beat a 99-04 GT with manual trans. (Automatic will be a different story).
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by eci
Factory freak on a perfect track on perfect day with perfect driving.
You're partially right: cool fall air, 250' above sea level, my '00 GT ran a 13.85, 13.87, and a whole string of 13.90's (with the occasional 14.00's when I wasn't quite perfect). But, I've seen plenty of 99-04 GT manuals run 13.90's to know that mine wasn't a factory freak.

Heck, those of us that are old enough remember seeing 100% stock 87-93 5.0L LX's and GT's running high 13's - and that was with just 215-225 hp!! Although, I'll admit that my '89 5.0L LX (bought it brand new) only ran low 14's.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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I'm buying one, only I can't decide which color I want. I've narrowed it down to Kona Blue (with silver stripes), Race Red (with black stripes), or Ingot Silver (with a single wide black stripe). The 5.0 motor was the deciding factor for me -- I wasn't even born when the Mustang vs. Camaro vs. Challenger was on the streets in 1970, and I want to be a part of it this time around. Like a lot of you guys have said, I do believe we're witnessing the last pony/muscle car war, at least for a while after 2016.

My dad, who's probably the one person in this world that I genuinely look up to and admire, has told me all about 1969/1970, when guys like us would go out and have a friendly race or two against a rival. Times have changed, of course (and with the speed/power available to us, street racing is for morons), but I think we'll all get a grin on our face when our new 5.0 pulls up next to a SS or R/T at a stop-light. For a moment, we get to see what our dad loved about that era of vehicular history.

Something that eci said, that a lot of people took the wrong way (as I see it), was that the people who want the cars now, will pay what they must. I agree completely. My reasoning is this: we are witnessing history for pony/muscle car buffs like ourselves. This isn't going to last -- sure, some guys will go and pay with their soul for the car. If they want it, that's fine. But there are other routes to take for people who want to save money for mods, or for other things. And by those routes, I'm talking about honest sales guys like Brian and Jeff. I'm buying mine from Jeff, but I have no doubts Brian would be just as fair and just as honest. I already plan on flying or taking a bus up to Pennsylvania when my beloved 5.0 comes in, and then driving it back down here to Texas. I also plan on lugging a CDC Chin Spoiler and a CDC Decklid Trim Panel up there with me, and putting it on before I even leave the parking lot.

Originally, Kona Blue wasn't on my list; I wanted Black. But after having seen the GT500 driven by eci and a couple of other guys, I changed my mind. Nice looking cars, y'all!

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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by David Young
Well, i'm one of the few people going to buy a 2011 V-6 with an automatic transmisssion (bad left leg). With the larger standard brakes, near 50/50 weight distribution and 30 highway m.p.g. i feel it's the car for me. At my old age (56), i don't need 412 horsepower. 305 is all i'll ever need. They are a couple V-6 Camaro's in my area that i hope to come across with in the near future.
I've just changed my mind........again LOL!!! Instead of a fully loaded V-6 Premium, no glass roof, i think i'll get a 2011 G.T. Premium with a few extra options. I only drive around 5,000 miles a year, if gas prices go crazy in the near future, i'll just get a Focus to use on longer drives. I talked to the car salesman that my Dad ordered his Taurus Limited from, he seems to know about the order banks opening up soon for the 2011 Mustangs. I'm going to order my G.T. with him.

My Dad's Taurus now has a V.I.N. number so it might be coming in 2 or 3 more weeks, if everything goes right.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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My lease is up this April on my 08 GT convertible. I am looking to place an order for a 2011 GT. Don't know if I am going to get a convertible again or not. When the time comes, I will make that decision. Will also be getting a winter beater to drive around too. Driving my 08 here in NJ when there is snow on the ground is crazy.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
You're partially right: cool fall air, 250' above sea level, my '00 GT ran a 13.85, 13.87, and a whole string of 13.90's (with the occasional 14.00's when I wasn't quite perfect). But, I've seen plenty of 99-04 GT manuals run 13.90's to know that mine wasn't a factory freak.

Heck, those of us that are old enough remember seeing 100% stock 87-93 5.0L LX's and GT's running high 13's - and that was with just 215-225 hp!! Although, I'll admit that my '89 5.0L LX (bought it brand new) only ran low 14's.
I agree, I don't think we're going to see any 2011 V6s "spanking" any GTs due to their lack of torque, but it will give them a good run for their money. It will definately be the best performance bargain since the 5.0 LX.

When I first got my 5.0 I ran 13.8s with just exhaust and pulleys...and having just learned manual! It's all about the torque!
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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[quote=The Blue Bomber;5792257]I'm buying one, only I can't decide which color I want.quote]

Sounds like a good problem to have.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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You should be able to spank GT's up to 2004 as well if they are stock.
Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
How do you figure? I used to own a 2000 Mustang GT (5-speed coupe). 100% factory stock on the stock tires I ran 13.80's @ 99 mph in the 1/4 mile. You think the new 2011 Mustang V6 is going to spank that? It might come close to matching it, but will not spank it.
Factory freak on a perfect track on perfect day with perfect driving.
You're partially right: cool fall air, 250' above sea level, my '00 GT ran a 13.85, 13.87, and a whole string of 13.90's (with the occasional 14.00's when I wasn't quite perfect). But, I've seen plenty of 99-04 GT manuals run 13.90's to know that mine wasn't a factory freak.
I watched a Bone Stock 2002 AUTO run back to back 13.66's@99 and my 2000 ran 5 straight 13.85's@100 in 95 degree heat(I did have a full magnaflow exhaust).

Heck, those of us that are old enough remember seeing 100% stock 87-93 5.0L LX's and GT's running high 13's - and that was with just 215-225 hp!! Although, I'll admit that my '89 5.0L LX (bought it brand new) only ran low 14's.
I've raced hundreds of 87-93's over the years and never seen a "bone stock" one run 13's on stock tires(they came with either 2.79s or 3.08's)!! I have seen 87-93's with gears (4.11's) and drag radials dip into the 13's. My 85 came from the factory with a 235 hp Ford Motorsport motor and 2.79 gears and would run high 13's on slicks.

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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tacbear
My 85 came from the factory with a 235 hp Ford Motorsport motor and 2.79 gears
If you are talking about an 85' Mustang GT, no it did not.
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by The Blue Bomber
... people who want the cars now, will pay what they must. I agree completely. My reasoning is this: we are witnessing history for pony/muscle car buffs like ourselves. This isn't going to last -- ...


I agree with this. This could be our last chance at cars with big V-8 engines. The future is looking more and more like smaller, more efficient engines or even electric at some point, so I say get the 5.0 now while it is available for sure, rather than gamble this pony car trend continues.
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by eci
If you are talking about an 85' Mustang GT, no it did not.

Well I guess you do know everything about every thing!

I ordered my 85 late in the year and after I took delivery I found out that Ford had a supply problem so they put the Ford Motorsport 235hp crate motor in the last 100 or so 85's along with some other upgrades like the 86 true dual exhaust. The dash had a Ford Motorsport emblem along with Ford Motorsport emblems below the 5.0 on the quarter panels.

I drag raced 10 different 85 Mustang GT's my first time out at Suffolk Dragway,VA and beat them all by at least 5 car lengths. The car mags got 14.9'sto 15.2's when they tested the 85 and my first pass was a 14.70. Bone stock my car was running 14.50's with 2.79 gears (I got it down to low 14's with a K&N filter, carb spacer and UD pullies...13.89 w/slicks)
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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That is a sweet looking 85 TacBear. I have always had a soft spot for the 85-85 models.
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