2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Traction...

Or rather, lack of it. How aggressively should the traction control be intervening? I'm spinning completely through 1st and 2nd and partly through 3rd under WOT.

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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Traction control can only do so much.. it more less keeps the car straight for me, i burn out in 1st and second, then bark the tires in 3rd (auto), at WOT..

you need to manage the right foot to not burn out in those 3 gears..
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:25 AM
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Traction control can only do so much.. it more less keeps the car straight for me, i burn out in 1st and second, then bark the tires in 3rd (auto), at WOT..

you need to manage the right foot to not burn out in those 3 gears..
That's what I thought. I've been pedaling it in 2nd and 3rd, but 1st is simply hopeless. I just wondered if that's what others were having, or if I should take it to the dealer.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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perfectly normal to me.. and if i put it in sport mode.. its even worse.. I think its main purpose is to keep the car straight.. and not doing a 180.. and the more upgrades we do, ex, tune intake.. will just make it worse..

I wish gas would go lower so i could get some more 93 octane ..
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneGT
perfectly normal to me.. and if i put it in sport mode.. its even worse.. I think its main purpose is to keep the car straight.. and not doing a 180.. and the more upgrades we do, ex, tune intake.. will just make it worse..

I wish gas would go lower so i could get some more 93 octane ..
I'm not sure what you're doing but you shouldn't be running the quarter with traction control on.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
I'm not sure what you're doing but you shouldn't be running the quarter with traction control on.
never ran on the track, or quater, i was refering to quick spirts on back roads.. if i mash it to the floor, 1st, 2nd, and begining of 3rd spins.. which is what the OP was refering to.. I can midigate all off the spinning with foot control, with and without TC on.. The BAMA tune is what amplified the problem with me because of the firmer shift points.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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Perhaps the tune also modified the traction control and made it less intrusive... on top of making it easier to spin the tires.

I have noticed traction issues in first and just manulipate the throttle to prevent issues. The traction control deals with the little spin that I allow. I am smart enough not to try instant full throttle in first, don't want new tires at 10,000 miles.

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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
I'm not sure what you're doing but you shouldn't be running the quarter with traction control on.
Pffftt.... I still managed mid 12's when I forgot to cut off the traction control
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bob

Pffftt.... I still managed mid 12's when I forgot to cut off the traction control
and...
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500

and...
That
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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245s are just tooooo narrow for 400+hp. I don't know what Ford was thinking, considering that 245s were on Cobras back in the late 90s, when they were producing 'only' 305hp.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Something else to consider - fuel. It was posted elsewhere that the traction control works by taking fuel off the engine, thus causing a lean condition. Very bad if you're at WOT. There is a post on S197 to install a relay that turns off TC as a default when turning on the ignition. I don't know if it's applicable to the newer cars, but I can't see why it wouldn't. I'd have to go find it, but I can post a link if anyone's interested.

Sorry, that post is on here:

https://themustangsource.com/f669/tr...ff-mod-462075/

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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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No traction issues for me with the brembo package. 275 width summer tires make quite a difference. I bark second and third. I haven't done a clutch dump into 1st yet, but as long as I do a controlled roll-in, I don't break traction.
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Old Mar 21, 2011 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye18
No traction issues for me with the brembo package. 275 width summer tires make quite a difference. I bark second and third. I haven't done a clutch dump into 1st yet, but as long as I do a controlled roll-in, I don't break traction.
How many miles?

The more mine gets broke in, the faster it gets.

When it was less than 1,000 miles, I was disappointed.

Now w/ 5000 miles.........it's an animal.
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 05:39 AM
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It's got ~1300mi on it now, and you're right - it is faster every time I romp on it.
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