Some 2010 love!
#181
Bert..
I actually stuck with my 2010GT... I modded the hell out of it and it was totally worth it. you can always get a power adder, that is way less than the $10K you would loose... Remember the differences between the 2010 and 2012 apart from the additional ponies are not that significant....
I personally think that the 2010 hydraulic power steering is a tad better than the EPAS (which I have now)...
But not everyone is sooooo crazy with his 2010GT than I am...
a little teaser for you
LEXiiON
The 4.6 and 3.7 engine are in a similar category for power and potential. OP, get the 5.0 if you can afford it because its the 5.0 which a 2010 is not!
Last edited by 2011 Kona Blue; 1/28/16 at 09:27 AM.
#183
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The 4.6 is a great engine and the 2010 Gt is awesome but it fails in comparison to the 2012 5.0. The 5.0 will have far more potential and can reach 450 rwhp N/A, bolt on mods. The 4.6 will never reach that power N/A and the block on factory internals are good for 450 to 500 rwhp tops. Any higher power, forging the engine needs to be done.
The 4.6 and 3.7 engine are in a similar category for power and potential. OP, get the 5.0 if you can afford it because its the 5.0 which a 2010 is not!
The 4.6 and 3.7 engine are in a similar category for power and potential. OP, get the 5.0 if you can afford it because its the 5.0 which a 2010 is not!
In the end it is a trade off between the additional power and a new car payment, or no payment and some mods to get closer to 400hp.
Bert's decision.....
Either way he can have a nice car for the track.
LEXiiON
#184
What power is your 4.6 making boosted?
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#185
Mach 1 Member
I am not scared about boosted coyotes.
LEXiiON
#187
Wait, I'm confused, I thought you had a 4.6 engine with your 10 Gt? I thought we were talking about the 2010 Gt or upgrade to the 5.0. Of course you having the 5.8 engine is completely different and would eat coyote's for breakfast. Different animal
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#188
Mach 1 Member
LEXiiON
#189
Yeah, I realized that now. Lol. You did an engine swap which that's certainly an option. I have no idea on the cost of a 5.8 swap from a 4.6. If Bert does not want to do a complete engine swap, he would be better off stepping up to the 5.0.
#190
Well, that's true. Its a solid engine that one can easily make 450 rwhp with bolt on mods, and 625 rwhp boosted with factory internals. Not sure how much power the coyote block can handle with forged internals but it's far superior to the 4.6 engine.
The 10 Gt 4.6 engine and the 3.7 are in the same boat. Very similar power from factory and boosted the same power as well. A full bolt on 5.0 will keep with a boosted 10 Gt, 4.6 all day long. Go for the 5.0
The 10 Gt 4.6 engine and the 3.7 are in the same boat. Very similar power from factory and boosted the same power as well. A full bolt on 5.0 will keep with a boosted 10 Gt, 4.6 all day long. Go for the 5.0
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#191
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Just for the record, I would not even consider the 3.7 as an alternative to the 4.6; yeah on paper the peak HP is similar but that's about where the similarities end.
I still love my 2010.
#192
If I were to get rid of my 3.7 I wouldn't buy a 2010 Gt so I completely understand where your coming from. How important is it to you to own a 5.0?
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#194
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The 4.6 is a great engine and the 2010 Gt is awesome but it fails in comparison to the 2012 5.0. The 5.0 will have far more potential and can reach 450 rwhp N/A, bolt on mods. The 4.6 will never reach that power N/A and the block on factory internals are good for 450 to 500 rwhp tops. Any higher power, forging the engine needs to be done.
The 4.6 and 3.7 engine are in a similar category for power and potential. OP, get the 5.0 if you can afford it because its the 5.0 which a 2010 is not!
The 4.6 and 3.7 engine are in a similar category for power and potential. OP, get the 5.0 if you can afford it because its the 5.0 which a 2010 is not!
I like the 3.7 and I think CFM was claiming the 3.7 record at 10.7 on a factory engine but Limitless I'm sure could destroy that number but I have never been able to see their times as I think they are mostly grudge racing or street racing. From what I have been hearing the blocks are pretty strong and will handle some abuse like the 4.6 blocks before failing which is more than you can say for the 5.0's which is a cool thing. That being said, I wouldn't say that it is in the same category as far as power potential unless you are looking for a decent amount of power. Outside of that, in my opinion the 3V is just the better engine in terms of power potential.
In terms of the Mustang world I would say that it is one of the tops, but not THE bench mark.
#195
Mach 1 Member
^^ This.
And this from sqidd on supercharging:
So Bert, go add some N/A power to your existing 2010GT (like the FRPP Intake, the 62mm TB and then maybe heads and cams later down the road, a nice set of Kooks LT's with the green catted h/x pipe and you should be very competitive)...
LEXiiON
And this from sqidd on supercharging:
LEXiiON
#196
I'm going to disagree with that. With bolt-ons I will agree the most you can make is probably around 350-360 and with cams and what not 400-410. Hell German Sheppard was making 42X with his N/A 3V and spyder was making 421 with the MAF pegged and race transmission and 4.30 gears IIRC but his trap speeds were indicating he was in the 450+ range with his N/A 3V. The 3V is a very very very capable motor, it just takes the right person to unleash it. MattD was running 11.0 with his 3V Spyder was running mid 10's with his N/A Mo Makki is running sub 8 seconds with his, Justin Burcham was running 8.2's or 8.02's with his, Chevy Killer was running 8's with his setup as well.
I like the 3.7 and I think CFM was claiming the 3.7 record at 10.7 on a factory engine but Limitless I'm sure could destroy that number but I have never been able to see their times as I think they are mostly grudge racing or street racing. From what I have been hearing the blocks are pretty strong and will handle some abuse like the 4.6 blocks before failing which is more than you can say for the 5.0's which is a cool thing. That being said, I wouldn't say that it is in the same category as far as power potential unless you are looking for a decent amount of power. Outside of that, in my opinion the 3V is just the better engine in terms of power potential.
In terms of the Mustang world I would say that it is one of the tops, but not THE bench mark.
#197
I'm going to disagree with that. With bolt-ons I will agree the most you can make is probably around 350-360 and with cams and what not 400-410. Hell German Sheppard was making 42X with his N/A 3V and spyder was making 421 with the MAF pegged and race transmission and 4.30 gears IIRC but his trap speeds were indicating he was in the 450+ range with his N/A 3V. The 3V is a very very very capable motor, it just takes the right person to unleash it. MattD was running 11.0 with his 3V Spyder was running mid 10's with his N/A Mo Makki is running sub 8 seconds with his, Justin Burcham was running 8.2's or 8.02's with his, Chevy Killer was running 8's with his setup as well.
I like the 3.7 and I think CFM was claiming the 3.7 record at 10.7 on a factory engine but Limitless I'm sure could destroy that number but I have never been able to see their times as I think they are mostly grudge racing or street racing. From what I have been hearing the blocks are pretty strong and will handle some abuse like the 4.6 blocks before failing which is more than you can say for the 5.0's which is a cool thing. That being said, I wouldn't say that it is in the same category as far as qpower potential unless you are looking for a decent amount of power. Outside of that, in my opinion the 3V is just the better engine in terms of power potential.
In terms of the Mustang world I would say that it is one of the tops, but not THE bench mark.
#198
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#199
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Yep!!
#200
The 3V is better in terms of its block. In fact any 4.6's block is far stronger than the 5.0 block is. Up until a few years ago John Mihovetz was still using factory 4.6 blocks on his cars. Koenigsegg was using the 4.6 Teksid blocks on his car because they could handle something like 1500 HP with out issue. The 5.0 block on the other hand ..... not so much. In that regards the 3V is better than the 5.0 that's for sure.
I have seen a few of them running that high on E85.
Yep!!