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Selling 2012 V6 to get used 5.0

Old Sep 25, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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random but I checked with my future insurance and if I would of gotten a 5.0, my insurance would of been the same price somehow. I was messing around with their online quote calculator and put some random 5.0's vin in and it still gave me the same quote.
I wanted a v6 and that's what I'm getting. I'm gonna learn to drive stick on it and I don't want a 422 hp monster to learn on and end up hurting others or myself. I have practiced already anyway with other cars but it'll be my first manual. Since everyone will pee their pants for the 2015 and sell their garage queen gt premiums for dirt cheap, I may trade mine in and get one if I'm not 100% happy with my little monster.
Women have no problems driving the 5.0 as their first car.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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I financed 17K for my V6. The GT was 12K more. Same base cloth cars just different engines.

107 extra horses (generously) was not worth 12K plus interest over the term of the loan.

Beat it with a stick but if you can get a good deal on a v6, it really is the smart choice.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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How is everyone paying so much for a base gt?
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
How is everyone paying so much for a base gt?
lol for real! I could of gotten a base 2012 gt for 26k out the door back in august.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Even the used ones are 26k and up. Ridiculous.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mopar?
lol for real! I could of gotten a base 2012 gt for 26k out the door back in august.
Oh yea? 4K below MSRP.....right. Forget to mention a trade or something?
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 12:10 PM
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the base msrp is like 29,700.. 2-3k rebates and talking down to invoice..



GT 2dr Car

5.0L V8

invoice $27,459

msrp $29,710

let say you get them down to 28,000 and then you have a 2,000 rebate in that area that alone is 26,000.


http://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/...tyle=101355112
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TheReaper
That's why I love the v6 Mustang and the Prius. The v6 makes money for Ford to build my GT
You have that backwards, Ford takes the GT buyers to the cleaners to pass more savings on to the V6 buyers. Do the math. A GT costs the same as as V6 Mustang PLUS the cost of a crate coyote. So every GT basically pays for a free V6 engine for a V6 buyers.

Not that anyone in these forums would fall into that category but there are enough GT (Corvette, etc.) buyers who are willing to overpay for a car to help with their inferiority complexes. That sucks for the other GT buyers but does let Ford give free engines to their V6 customers.

As a veteran I'm often thanked for my service but as a V6 Mustang owner, I need to do the same for the GT buyers who paid for my motor.

So..... Thanks guys!
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
the base msrp is like 29,700.. 2-3k rebates and talking down to invoice..



GT 2dr Car

5.0L V8

invoice $27,459

msrp $29,710

let say you get them down to 28,000 and then you have a 2,000 rebate in that area that alone is 26,000.


http://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/...tyle=101355112
plus tax tags and destination charge.... no way it can be done for $26,000 out the door. I believe you that you could get the price down, and there are some good rebates but lets be realistic. lol.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012BLKV6
plus tax tags and destination charge.... no way it can be done for $26,000 out the door. I believe you that you could get the price down, and there are some good rebates but lets be realistic. lol.
well in my case I get z plan price so I could get the car for less then 26.. also you will be paying tax title and lic fees on the v6. I just think its silly to say the gt is 12k more when its really like 3-5k more..
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012BLKV6
plus tax tags and destination charge.... no way it can be done for $26,000 out the door. I believe you that you could get the price down, and there are some good rebates but lets be realistic. lol.
Tax is different eveywhere and there's still tax on a v6 and there's no tax on the trade-in difference so ppl don't include tax in the price, that's seporate & not relevant for comparison purposes.

Anyway my '13 GT was $29,700 (that's including auto & red candy which add almost $1500) i could've gotten a '12 for $2500 less because of rebates so what's so hard to believe about 26-27 especially w/ a manual?????


edit: New '13 GT
xplan = $28,684 + 795 dest
-1000 rebate -750 customer cash
= 27,729

leftovers & loss leaders sell for thousands less,
of course there's the occasional sucker that walks in and pays MSRP













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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy
You have that backwards, Ford takes the GT buyers to the cleaners to pass more savings on to the V6 buyers. Do the math. A GT costs the same as as V6 Mustang PLUS the cost of a crate coyote. So every GT basically pays for a free V6 engine for a V6 buyers.

Not that anyone in these forums would fall into that category but there are enough GT (Corvette, etc.) buyers who are willing to overpay for a car to help with their inferiority complexes. That sucks for the other GT buyers but does let Ford give free engines to their V6 customers.

As a veteran I'm often thanked for my service but as a V6 Mustang owner, I need to do the same for the GT buyers who paid for my motor.

So..... Thanks guys!
o really?

With all the volume sales of the V6, Ford is able to do R&D to create the Boss 302, the 5.0, and the 5.8L GT500.....

Don't confuse yourself.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012BLKV6
Oh yea? 4K below MSRP.....right. Forget to mention a trade or something?
X plan and $750 mail-in brochure and 3k incentives...
That's why I did my homework before I bought a brand new car for the first time, my window sticker for my 2013 v6 says 29k excluding tax title and transfer, I paid 26.5k out the door for it.

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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
well in my case I get z plan price so I could get the car for less then 26.. also you will be paying tax title and lic fees on the v6. I just think its silly to say the gt is 12k more when its really like 3-5k more..
It's not tho..... it is 8K difference. I agree, its nowhere near 12 but 3-5 is not right either. base v6 22,200 MSRP base vs 30,300 for the base GT. you can obviously get the same deals on both (as far as negotiating, incentives, etc). The most common mistake is when people compare the deal they got on a 5.0 to the MSRP on a v6. with your incentives and plan you could get a v6 for 18 or less.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mopar?
X plan and $750 mail-in brochure and 3k incentives...
That's why I did my homework before I bought a brand new car for the first time, my window sticker for my 2013 v6 says 29k excluding tax title and transfer, I paid 26.5k out the door for it.
Good deal
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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I didn't say it was 12K difference across the board. In my case it actually "was" on the day I priced cars. This was in Nov. 2010. The 5.0 was new, hot and in demand. The dealer was not going down when they couldn't keep those cars in stock.

It's this miscommunication/misinformation and things taken out of context that sucks about this forum. In my case, it was the smart move buying the v6, but maybe not for you. Happy shopping.

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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HoosierDaddy
You have that backwards, Ford takes the GT buyers to the cleaners to pass more savings on to the V6 buyers. Do the math. A GT costs the same as as V6 Mustang PLUS the cost of a crate coyote. So every GT basically pays for a free V6 engine for a V6 buyers.

Not that anyone in these forums would fall into that category but there are enough GT (Corvette, etc.) buyers who are willing to overpay for a car to help with their inferiority complexes. That sucks for the other GT buyers but does let Ford give free engines to their V6 customers.

As a veteran I'm often thanked for my service but as a V6 Mustang owner, I need to do the same for the GT buyers who paid for my motor.

So..... Thanks guys!
You are welcome and I'm glad I could help.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012BLKV6
It's not tho..... it is 8K difference. I agree, its nowhere near 12 but 3-5 is not right either. base v6 22,200 MSRP base vs 30,300 for the base GT. you can obviously get the same deals on both (as far as negotiating, incentives, etc). The most common mistake is when people compare the deal they got on a 5.0 to the MSRP on a v6. with your incentives and plan you could get a v6 for 18 or less.
do not forget that the GT rebates are largers(almost double) and that the mark up is higher. The base number you are using are not right..



V6 2dr

Invoice MSRP
$21,245 $22,310 rebates $1000-$1500

VS

GT 2dr

Invoice MSRP
$27,459 $29,710 rebates $2000-$3000

also include the fact that most v6 cars have options.


source

http://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/2012/options.html
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 04:55 PM
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When I bought my 11 v6 back in October 2010 it was around 7k more for the 5.0. For me, I wasn't willing to dole out 7k more for the additional performance and acceleration that comes with the V8. Not to say that its not worth the extra 7k too some but many like me, its not. For the extra 100 plus HP plus handling upgrades I couldn't convince myself to spend the extra 7k. Don't get me wrong, I love the 5.0 and the power that comes with it but don't love it enough to spend the extra cash on it.

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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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I got to page 5 and stopped reading.. at age 54 I could have bought a GT etc.. All of you are missing the point. Speed is relative to what.. Cylinders absolutely not!! its power to weight. But that aside I live in NY where the speed limit is 55.. i do go faster than that.. but where can you go 160+ etc.. Not everyone buys a Mustang to go to the track.. If I wanted a track car i would get a notch and build in a turbo and go 9's. For me is was about the look, the features and the enjoyment of the drive. Not to race like the local ricers who want to race anything..On the the street to boot. buy what you enjoy and want to spend your paycheck on each month. if the OP wants to go in the hole money wise with the GT only to be where he can't even afford to drive it.. go for it. Otherwise if you are not going to be going around with your huge check book paying the 10 grand difference for every potential V6 owner to get the GT.. STFU Please!!!! V6 owners stop defending your choice.. it was your choice and the GT owners at the end of the day don't get laid because they have the mighty V8 even though in their mind they believe they do...

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