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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Yes, the Mustang should never and should've never had less than 6 cylinders.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vertblkmustang92

I know they are different but the old 5.0 was head of the pack for a while. Yeah 13 years later a smaller engine can compete. I even stated that my V6 had more horsepower and that is one of the reasons I even settled to begin with.
There is a stigma about a GT/5.0 let alone just driving a Mustang. I'm young and I'm single and I'm power hungry. I am out of the doing donuts in the high school parking lot phase but I still want to go fast. You know I will probably get my 5.0 and whenever I do and won't be satisfied so I will upgrade it until I am. Hell maybe eventually I will be fortunate enough to get the next step up one day. You make sacrifices for the things you want in life and at this point a 5.0 is my priority.
Bro, No offense but the majority of people don't care if you have a 5.0 or 3.7 or 4.6. You having a 5.0 does not make you a powerful person nor important, No offense. Nothing wrong with a 3.7 sixer with 305 HP. No matter how much HP or power mustangs have most people want more. Never can you satisfy that thirst for power. You can have a 5.0 and plenty out there that's faster and more powerful.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by theACE
Yes, the Mustang should never and should've never had less than 6 cylinders.
Not true. Car manufacturers never set out to make a car with the "most" cylinders. For that matter, 10-12 cylinders would be the muscle car norm.

Technology advancements allowed us to make more efficient cars with just as much power. With that mentality, we'd still be transmitting 8 bit data from a room sized computer instead of our slim ultra fast laptops.

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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by theACE
maybe Ford should just kill the V6 and watch 2/3's of us disappear.....
That's why I love the v6 Mustang and the Prius. The v6 makes money for Ford to build my GT and the Prius owners save gas for me to burn.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 03:43 PM
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And the Prius costs the same as the GT.

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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Getportfolio
Not true. Car manufacturers never set out to make a car with the "most" cylinders. For that matter, 10-12 cylinders would be the muscle car norm.

Technology advancements allowed us to make more efficient cars with just as much power. With that mentality, we'd still be transmitting 8 bit data from a room sized computer instead of our slim ultra fast laptops.
I didnt mean it like that.

The Mustang should never have less than 6 cylinders but never more than 8.

It is just right, it is not about having the most cylinders.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Not to stir the pot but if I bought if I bought a 2010 GT, I would regret it.
That's funny.

I love my 4.6/281. It has great power to weight, has proven itself for durability over and over again, unlimited aftermarket options, and did not have any #8 meltdowns like the 5.0.

Just like back in the day when the 302 came out, 289 owners did not run out and slit their wrists. The 289 was a great engine and most stayed with it.

There's always going to be a bigger badder HP monster. I mean aren't you suicidal now that there's a 662HP 200mph 5.8L?? :guntohead:
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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That's why I love the v6 Mustang and the Prius. The v6 makes money for Ford to build my GT and the Prius owners save gas for me to burn.
Gt's are awesome cars, however with that said not every pony car owner is willing to pay the 6 to 7 k more for the extra power and performance upgrades that comes with the V8, 5.0. Most, including myself always want the most powerful but not willing to pay for that power. For me affording the 5.0 wasn't the bottom line but more not worth the extra 7k for that extra performance and power. After test driving the 2011 v6, I was more than happy and content with the power and performance the vehicle offered. V6 owners need to stop have ***** envy of its big brother car, 5.0 and be proud of it. Its still a Ford pony car and a definite bang for the buck, sports like car that offers power and performance for under 25k including tax and tags.

When shopping for my pony car back in October 2010 I was looking for a NEW 2010 Gt performance and power with a v6 price tag. I was not willing to spend 29 to 30k for the 10 Gt. The 2011 v6 was the answer that I was looking for. Similar performance to previous Gt's (not exact) but for thousands less.

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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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I know I'm a little late on this thread but I think the op is making a huge financial mistake. Its a poor time to try to sell his car right now because Ford is offering incredible deals on leftover 2012 models including cash back and 0%/60 months. Most people interested in the car are better off buying brand new. This is part of the reason why the dealership is low balling you. This car is a tough sell compared to leftover new 2012s and those interested in the new 2013s. I was very close to trading in my cobra for a 2012 gt but decided to hold off so a gt500 when the time us right.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 97GT03SVT
I know I'm a little late on this thread but I think the op is making a huge financial mistake. Its a poor time to try to sell his car right now because Ford is offering incredible deals on leftover 2012 models including cash back and 0%/60 months. Most people interested in the car are better off buying brand new. This is part of the reason why the dealership is low balling you. This car is a tough sell compared to leftover new 2012s and those interested in the new 2013s. I was very close to trading in my cobra for a 2012 gt but decided to hold off so a gt500 when the time us right.
This
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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I made this mistake.. twice. I traded to a 2012 Focus (I thought: Hey, let's be economical! Big mistake..) and then back to a 2012 Mustang V6.

Don't let the old folk on here scare you with their constant V8 mongering, the V6 is a beast. They're just jealous because it's faster than EVERY preceding GT.

I love getting the "Is it a V8?" question all the time. Usually from dudes.. the ladies? They don't care, and neither do I. Excuse me, I have a bedroom to attend..

At the end of the day, they coped out anyway. GT? Why didn't you just get the GT500? LOLOLOL...

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... but seriously man, don't do it. Hold onto your car. Being upside down is just a vicious, never-ending cycle. SAVE YOUR MONEY. Get a 2015!

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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
also.. super glue and body panels to not a GT make. I am sorry but all you have done is make a slower heavier V6. But I know you are happy with it so im happy for you.
Wow harsh man - that car's gonna get much more looks @ a mustang show than a stock-ish Boss 302.

Love these threads. Such a study in human behavior. I know exactly where this cat's coming from as I had a the (mis)fortune of driving a new '03 V6 (w/ the then new pony package) for a few years before my current '11 5.0 - that was back when V6's were really the rental specials.

It's just marketing and consumerism pushing you to the faster one. Over time I got over it, kept it clean and it was a decent daily driver that I didn't mind using every day (and could get over scratches as it wasn't anything special). Probably coulda got a left over '11 GT500 for around the same price as the 5.0 but that wouldn't have been very wise either...

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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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The 2011-13 V6 is very impressive. Nothing wrong with owning the V6.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Not to stir the pot but if I bought if I bought a 2010 GT, I would regret it. I would kick myself everyday because who the hell knew that the next years model would be so drastically different? Theres so much win in the 2011 and up mustangs in general. Besides paying on a relatively new car note when i could be driving the 5.0...The worse feeling would be knowing that my v8 had roughly the same hp as a current v6....And it was a v8!

Point is: its the opposite for me because I'd feel ripped off with the more expensive GT.
It depends what you are looking for, similar to the arguments about what people want in the age-old V6 vs V8 debates. I purposefully bought my 2010 GT, even though I was well aware of the information about the 5.0L coming.

My reasons at the time of purchase -
a) I loved the styling change from the '05-'09 models (I had an '07)
b) the 4.6L/T3650 was a long-produced (by that time) drivetrain that ran on 87 octane and had adaptive spark technology
c) I wanted a daily driver with enough oomph for around town but not so much that I was going to step in it every time and be burning through more tanks of fuel (more of my driving is around-town)
d) I was uncertain what the price increase would be over the 2010 GT
e) The handling improvements were based on the '08-'09 Bullitt, and I loved (still love) that car.
e) I already had another 400+hp car

Looking back on my decision, I have been very happy with it. Of course, we've since learned that there was a period of teething problems with the new engine/transmission for some people, the 5.0L also runs on 87 octane, and the fuel economy can be quite similar or even better, if you drive with a lighter foot. All of those things don't outweigh the fun I've had with the torque and the sound of the 4.6L.

Perhaps if it was my only V8 car, I might have felt regret. However, these days, it's good to be a Mustang enthusiast with whatever you choose because the 3.7L is a stronger performer, and the 5.0L is a fantastic powerplant that will have some life in it, fuel economy concerns later down the line notwithstanding.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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and the sound of the 4.6L.
I still haven't heard a great sounding 5.0. (Granted I'm spoiled with Bullitt's perfect exhaust note.)
Don't know why that is, just an observation. They sound like axlebacks stuffed with banana's.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:44 PM
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I still haven't heard a great sounding 5.0. (Granted I'm spoiled with Bullitt's perfect exhaust note.)
Don't know why that is, just an observation. They sound like axlebacks stuffed with banana's.
The '08-'09 Bullitt has THE exhaust note that I would NOT change on the 4.6L. That actually was the sound I was trying to emulate when I got my axlebacks recently. Nothing like that sound!
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jsimmons
+1. Just because it's a V6 doesn't mean it has to look like one. This is mine...
That's awesome styling!
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JPMotorSport

Wow harsh man - that car's gonna get much more looks @ a mustang show than a stock-ish Boss 302.

Love these threads. Such a study in human behavior. I know exactly where this cat's coming from as I had a the (mis)fortune of driving a new '03 V6 (w/ the then new pony package) for a few years before my current '11 5.0 - that was back when V6's were really the rental specials.

It's just marketing and consumerism pushing you to the faster one. Over time I got over it, kept it clean and it was a decent daily driver that I didn't mind using every day (and could get over scratches as it wasn't anything special). Probably coulda got a left over '11 GT500 for around the same price as the 5.0 but that wouldn't have been very wise either...
Well said.

The appearance of the GT was also something I considered as well. Stirring the pot again, but after you purchase the GT, your wallet may be in for a hit changing out, stock wheels, spoilers, exhaust, suspension, and other aesthetics.

I go to car shows and see so many stock GTs lined up in every color of the rainbow. No offense, but they are forgettable because of their "stock" appearance.

V6 or not, the unique cars are the ones that get noticed and are remembered. Many 5.0 mustangs pass me by on a daily basis who could blow my doors off but my impression is "who cares, when your vanilla stock looking."

Point is, very few are happy keeping their car stock. This forum is proof of that. Mods aren't cheap. Are you willing to fork out money on top of an already expensive v8? Do you tally up the money spent on the price of the car and mods one day and say " heck I should have just bought a Z06."

Cars are depreciating money pits. Not investments or status symbols...At least with the v6, you have a little extra cash for your loved ones...But who am I to question anyone's priorities in life? I'm just speaking as a Dad.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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The '08-'09 Bullitt has THE exhaust note that I would NOT change on the 4.6L. That actually was the sound I was trying to emulate when I got my axlebacks recently. Nothing like that sound!
Mine's stock as a rock to the delight of my ears.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mjs1m5

Don't let the old folk on here scare you with their constant V8 mongering, the V6 is a beast. They're just jealous because it's faster than EVERY preceding GT.
It's competitive in straight line acceleration with the 4.6L from the Bullitt or '10 car, depending on which car tests and personal experiences you cite. For example, this one from Motor Trend.
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