2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

safe to assume...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 6/12/12 | 11:47 AM
  #21  
kcoTiger's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: December 20, 2011
Posts: 4,354
Likes: 53
From: CenTex...sort of
Jamal hameedi himself has said the '13 GT500 has been designed not for street-light-to-street-light, not just drag racing but for all-around performance. An IRS is not designed to improve straight-ahead performance anywhere near as much as it is designed to stabilize the car in turns and cornering. Both of these cars are far more than just quarter-mile or pony cars. To say they aren't at home on a road course is akin to saying you've not read or heard a single word written or said about either of them. You do know that Shelby himself said this GT500 is faster around a road course than the ford GT, ford's preeminent track car...haven't you? To label these cars "not at home on a road course" is blind ignorance.

Last edited by kcoTiger; 6/12/12 at 11:51 AM.
Old 6/12/12 | 02:43 PM
  #22  
devious_stang's Avatar
Thread Starter
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: June 6, 2012
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Coconut Creek,FL
you should really go back and read what I wrote....and also find me the quote or video where Shelby himself said the GT500 was faster than the FGT. I have heard that, but it did not come from shelby. That statement came from a different source. Also the lineage and roots of these cars is straight line, they are evolved to handle road course duty, but it is not their greatest strength. Both cars offer great all around performance for the street and occasional track duty (strip and track) which you choose is up to you....and thank you captain obvious for telling me an IRS does not help straight line speed, thats painfully obvious to the camaro crowd with their SC beast only turning mid 12's consistently. Just admit it, these cars will mostly see stop light to stop light racing and the rare trips to the track by few owners. Others will be garage, show queens. Not realizing this fact is blind ignorance

Last edited by devious_stang; 6/12/12 at 02:50 PM.
Old 6/12/12 | 03:10 PM
  #23  
kcoTiger's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: December 20, 2011
Posts: 4,354
Likes: 53
From: CenTex...sort of
Originally Posted by devious_stang
you should really go back and read what I wrote....and also find me the quote or video where Shelby himself said the GT500 was faster than the FGT. I have heard that, but it did not come from shelby. That statement came from a different source. Also the lineage and roots of these cars is straight line, they are evolved to handle road course duty, but it is not their greatest strength. Both cars offer great all around performance for the street and occasional track duty (strip and track) which you choose is up to you....and thank you captain obvious for telling me an IRS does not help straight line speed, thats painfully obvious to the camaro crowd with their SC beast only turning mid 12's consistently. Just admit it, these cars will mostly see stop light to stop light racing and the rare trips to the track by few owners. Others will be garage, show queens. Not realizing this fact is blind ignorance
lol...just keep shoving your thick head further into the sand, maybe you'll find something.

I don't give a rat's *** what everyone else is going to do with theirs; I care what I'm going to do with mine, and that's put it on a track every weekend I have available. As far as what the cars are capable of or designed to do, I think I'll take Mr. Hameedi's word over yours. He seems to actually know what he's talking about.

You: "zl1 and GT500 are pony cars, they are not at home on a road course." Uh, Mr. Hameedi and the entire SVT development team on line one for you. Regarding the explanation for IRS, you seemed to think the camaro wasn't designed to handle turns; the explanation was purely for your benefit. I'd think you'd be appreciative, since you knew it was on the car and yet still insisted the car wasn't designed for the road courses...or is there a 1/4 mile drag strip somewhere with a chicane in the middle of it?

Last edited by kcoTiger; 6/12/12 at 03:13 PM.
Old 6/12/12 | 03:29 PM
  #24  
devious_stang's Avatar
Thread Starter
Bullitt Member
 
Joined: June 6, 2012
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
From: Coconut Creek,FL
Enjoy the car however you so choose, its your choice....no point in arguing with someone like you over the internet since you lack basic reading and comprehension skills
Old 6/12/12 | 03:35 PM
  #25  
ford20's Avatar
Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 1, 2010
Posts: 3,007
Likes: 66
From: White Plains, NY
Originally Posted by kcoTiger
Lol...who is saying they didn't?

Do you know who is driving the cars, specifically the camaro? How is anyone to know whether that's the car's owner or a guy who wants to make the camaro look bad? Do you know if the guy in the camaro was trying to see if he could match the boss while in a higher gear than the boss? Do you know for certain the boss isnt modded to its eyeballs? It's one thing to have motor trend put something like this together, but this ain't motor trend.
I'm not saying GM built a better car; personally I hope the disparity between the ZL1 and the Shelby is as wide as some say it is, because when I take my '13 GT500 to the track it will be that much easier to beat them. But that video is hardly "proof" of anything.
In the original video description the owner of the ZL1 was listed as the owner of Torq. He sells Mustang, Camaro and Mopar parts. So he would have nothing to gain by purposely losing to the Boss and nothing to loose but a bruised ego by loosing to a Boss in the mighty ZL1.

A stock Boss 302 on DRs will run in the High 11s so with a good driver and the CAI/Tune its possible to run stock ZL1 times with the Boss.
Old 6/12/12 | 04:27 PM
  #26  
kcoTiger's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: December 20, 2011
Posts: 4,354
Likes: 53
From: CenTex...sort of
Originally Posted by devious_stang
Enjoy the car however you so choose, its your choice....no point in arguing with someone like you over the internet since you lack basic reading and comprehension skills
Oh yes, clearly I'm the one who is lacking in comprehension.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
junkman9096
'10-14 Interior and Audio
5
5/12/16 12:43 AM
09-gt/cs
GT Performance Mods
9
10/15/15 10:03 AM
1001yos
Ford Discussions
0
9/8/15 10:05 PM
steiblerm
2005-2009 Mustang
5
8/16/15 05:05 AM
09-gt/cs
General Mustang Chat
2
8/14/15 08:52 AM



Quick Reply: safe to assume...



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:19 PM.