March 2010 5.0 Mustang has a 19 page spread on the 5.0
1/9/10, 05:26 PM
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My bad, I posted facts and quotes from Coyote engineers.
Dude, how long have you been around? A person can buy a 2005 GT, spend $6,000, and make more power than a stock GT500. The HO Whipple is rated at 550HP. Difference is he is on the ragged edge. A GT500 is asleep at 540HP. So, you're wrong about that comment. If you think spending 5-6k on a 2011 GT makes it equal to a GT500, I think you are believing too much of Boomer's hype. Sorry.
I am posting actual information. Not crap like " just wait, it has "stuff" to deal with "stuff " *wink* *giggle*. " Do you not want the ACTUAL information? Instead of giggles and winks, I would like to have an actual technical conversation.
Dude, how long have you been around? A person can buy a 2005 GT, spend $6,000, and make more power than a stock GT500. The HO Whipple is rated at 550HP. Difference is he is on the ragged edge. A GT500 is asleep at 540HP. So, you're wrong about that comment. If you think spending 5-6k on a 2011 GT makes it equal to a GT500, I think you are believing too much of Boomer's hype. Sorry.
I am posting actual information. Not crap like " just wait, it has "stuff" to deal with "stuff " *wink* *giggle*. " Do you not want the ACTUAL information? Instead of giggles and winks, I would like to have an actual technical conversation.
1/9/10, 05:28 PM
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1/9/10, 05:31 PM
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For the techno eggheads among us, here is a thesis that compares strength, fatigue life, manufacturing costs, etc. for forged steel vs. powdered metal connecting rods. I haven't read through it yet, though.
http://www.forging.org/FIERF/pdf/FatigueBehavior.pdf
http://www.forging.org/FIERF/pdf/FatigueBehavior.pdf
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com
1/9/10, 05:42 PM
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eci, I like you. you might be a bit abrasive sometimes to some people, but you are right in what you say. I supercharged my '07 GT knowing full well that I could make it beat a stock GT500 in a straight line, but at the expense of having it run on the ragged edge. There is so much untapped potential with the GT500 due to its very robust engine construction, but us GT guys have to worry about long term reliability when we try to modify the stock short block too much.
I'm going to keep my 5.0 naturally aspirated, though I may upgrade the internals for reasons other than performance. If I want a drag strip car, that'll have to come later on whenever I have the extra money to spend on that money pit. I doubt I'll see 500 horsepower out of my N/A 5.0 engine, but whatever I get really should be enough. I've got a friend who's been building his '03 Cobra (last dynometer rating was 650 horsepower), and it breaks pretty much constantly.
I'm not buying the car for drag strip purposes, though I will go to see what it'll do with the mods I've got planned.
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1/9/10, 05:52 PM
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Of course there will be an SVT version of the engine. Should have clarified, I am discussing modifications to the base GT engine as shipped.
1/9/10, 05:57 PM
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Just for everyones information I will add some tech here:
There is a process where powdered metal is heated and poured into an oversized mold, formed into the shape of a connecting rod then hammer forged while still hot into the final shape. The Hammer forging packs the molecules closer together forming a stronger part. Hence "Forged powdered metal connecting rods".
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I have also noticed that "eci" is real sensitive about his GT 500! Just for the record I own one of those "inferior" 4.6's with the "fragile" hyperpathetic rods that is supercharged running 11 lbs of boost(without a intercooler) and I don't know what a GT 500 runs in the quarter, but mine is stout enough to run 12.5's in the quarter, 171 mph at Talladega (averaging 151.3) and post 1:50 laps at Barbers Motorsport Park (a road course) without blowing up!!
There is a process where powdered metal is heated and poured into an oversized mold, formed into the shape of a connecting rod then hammer forged while still hot into the final shape. The Hammer forging packs the molecules closer together forming a stronger part. Hence "Forged powdered metal connecting rods".
P.S.
I have also noticed that "eci" is real sensitive about his GT 500! Just for the record I own one of those "inferior" 4.6's with the "fragile" hyperpathetic rods that is supercharged running 11 lbs of boost(without a intercooler) and I don't know what a GT 500 runs in the quarter, but mine is stout enough to run 12.5's in the quarter, 171 mph at Talladega (averaging 151.3) and post 1:50 laps at Barbers Motorsport Park (a road course) without blowing up!!
1/9/10, 06:19 PM
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Just for the record I own one of those "inferior" 4.6's with the "fragile" hyperpathetic rods that is supercharged running 11 lbs of boost(without a intercooler) and I don't know what a GT 500 runs in the quarter, but mine is stout enough to run 12.5's in the quarter, 171 mph at Talladega (averaging 151.3) and post 1:50 laps at Barbers Motorsport Park (a road course) without blowing up!!
1/9/10, 06:31 PM
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Exactly. How 'bout you guys knock the bull**** off and take your garbage to face book or some ****. Keep it out of here. It would have been nice to read a thread about the engine. Not a bunch of useless drivel, "He called me a name so I'm gonna **** up the thread" **** WTF.
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1/9/10, 06:43 PM
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1/9/10, 07:29 PM
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1/9/10, 07:30 PM
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1/9/10, 07:58 PM
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You should be very proud! I certainly know that my car isn't the fastest car in the world. 12.50 is spinning all the way through 1st and breaking loose in 2nd gear...my problem is TRACTION. I should be in the 11's. I should be able to launch harder now that I have the Kenny Brown TracKit. My point was my car does pretty good for a 4.6L 2V with hyper-pathetic rods.
1/9/10, 08:03 PM
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def should be in the 11s, i was thinkin about going to the track just to get the slip, but why? with a 12.03 and a 118.5 trap speed in 3000DA i know i have an 11 sec car, dont need a piece of paper to tell me.
traction wasnt my issue, stock suspension was lol
traction wasnt my issue, stock suspension was lol
