Got a Temp Spare & Jack Kit for my V6 !!
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Ever drive a 4x4 in a circle on dry pavement?
While the clutch in a limited slip/Trac-Lok can handle turns (a small portion of driving miles) to have that clutch working constantly as one drives 30-60-90+ miles back home or to a tire shop/Dealer is putting unnecessary wear and heat on your diff.
Also important even with slightly different size tires is to turn OFF traction control so the ABS isn't going nuts.
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While the clutch in a limited slip/Trac-Lok can handle turns (a small portion of driving miles) to have that clutch working constantly as one drives 30-60-90+ miles back home or to a tire shop/Dealer is putting unnecessary wear and heat on your diff.
Also important even with slightly different size tires is to turn OFF traction control so the ABS isn't going nuts.
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However, driving with slightly different wheel sizes will have no significant impact on the differential. There is a big difference in how the clutches are deployed in the differential when reacting to input torque from the driveshaft as opposed to reacting to external torque from a difference in wheel speed between sides (i.e. during a turn). In the absence of significant input torque (e.g. when coasting or otherwise not accelerating), the difference in wheel speed is not affecting the differential clutch at all. So, as long as you drive gently and for a relatively short distance, you really have nothing to fear in terms of damage to your differential.
BTW, my Boss 351 had a 4.11 Detroit Locker (wow, what a pain to parallel park) and my first dealership job was at an American Motors/Jeep dealer so I have had some small experience with differentials.
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I don't understand why this is a problem.
Pull the tire off the rear.
Put on spare loosely.
Put flat on front loosely.
Remove spare and put front tire on back.
Put spare on front.
No problem.
Last time I changed a flat, doing just one tire was 15 mins. or less.
Another wheel or so should still be under a half hour.
That being said; If I'm only going another few miles I wouldn't bother with the drill.
Pull the tire off the rear.
Put on spare loosely.
Put flat on front loosely.
Remove spare and put front tire on back.
Put spare on front.
No problem.
Last time I changed a flat, doing just one tire was 15 mins. or less.
Another wheel or so should still be under a half hour.
That being said; If I'm only going another few miles I wouldn't bother with the drill.
As I said before ... with a flat in the rear, 1st jack up the FRONT and swap out a good tire for the spare. Then jack up the rear and swap out the flat for the good front. Only need to use the jack "once" per end this way.
Doug
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Sounds like a couple of extra steps to me !!
As I said before ... with a flat in the rear, 1st jack up the FRONT and swap out a good tire for the spare. Then jack up the rear and swap out the flat for the good front. Only need to use the jack "once" per end this way.
Doug
As I said before ... with a flat in the rear, 1st jack up the FRONT and swap out a good tire for the spare. Then jack up the rear and swap out the flat for the good front. Only need to use the jack "once" per end this way.
Doug
Of course, all of this is theoretical for me.
Personally I would never drive that far with a flat.
Change to the spare and drive to the nearest safe parking lot.
Call somebody or AAA and get a ride to my truck.
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I can't believe the spare tire kit wasn't at least an option on the '11 V6. I would bet that most people will want a spare after they realize their car didn't come with one.
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My stuff was already shipped and will be delivered by tomorrow.
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I'm going to want a spare too. Once my car arrives I'm going to press my salesman about it. If that doesn't work, I'm going to ask my mechanic to find one in a junkyard for me. He can probably make a couple of phone calls and find one pretty quick. I guess any spare and jack would work from a 2005-2010.
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I'm going to want a spare too. Once my car arrives I'm going to press my salesman about it. If that doesn't work, I'm going to ask my mechanic to find one in a junkyard for me. He can probably make a couple of phone calls and find one pretty quick. I guess any spare and jack would work from a 2005-2010.
Doug
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It makes sence that Ford would eliminate the 16" one all together at some point between '05-10, but one never knows. Figured the 16" may have still came on a "steel" rim, which could have been a decent cost savings compared to the GT's larger 17" aluminum one.
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Actual WEIGHT of the 2011 GT 18" Spare ??
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Also my spare is 155/70-17, pretty much the same dia as the 185/60-17, i'll have to weigh it later and see if there's any difference.
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Check to see if the rim is steel or allumium too ... would guess Ford would use a different width rim for that narrower tire too and if they were going that far may as well use cheaper steel too.
Doug
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That's 5 lbs i don't need.. if i come across an aluminum one i'll change it
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As the jack instructions I got are curled up rather than flat, I just put my funnel inside it and it is just laying in the back corner next to the spare. Looks like they just put some notches in the lug wrench case ... I'll have to stop by my dealer and look at the 2011 GT's (or one of the 2010's on the used lot) to see if it's worth the effort to modify mine to match.
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I checked all the junk yards where i live. One (junk yard) is connected to 4 other states by computer for parts. No spares anywhere. I had to order one from my dealer for a 2010 G.T. I also ordered a jack and lug wrench. Don't ask me how much i paid for this LOL!!!
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What little i know about this, the 2011 V-6 has the same brakes as the 2010 G.T. Can't buy a temp. spare for a 2011 V-6. The 2011 G.T. has larger brakes than the 2010 G.T. and i don't know if a temp. spare is offered for the 2011 G.T.
This is why i bought a temp. spare that fits a 2010 G.T. for my 2011 V-6. If this makes any sense LOL!!!
This is why i bought a temp. spare that fits a 2010 G.T. for my 2011 V-6. If this makes any sense LOL!!!
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Don't know if reading the post, I missed something. My 2011 5.0 came with a mini-spare.
Safest thing to do if you flat (cyclists use it as a verb) on the rear is do the double switch. Just remember the spare will probably not fit over the Brembo package up front. In this case just put the spare on the rear. You can get away with this if you take it easy and don't drive too far. Did it on the Camaro once. After 50 miles or so started to get a whine when turning slow corners. After the tire repair, had the diff oil replaced and friction-modifier added. Seemed to work fine.
Had CAA do the tire change. Hey I'm getting too old. Don't understand why you guys want to change your own wheels when you have road-side-assistance available.
If you are worried about the diff, have AAA bring a flat-bed. Won't they do that?
Cheers.
Safest thing to do if you flat (cyclists use it as a verb) on the rear is do the double switch. Just remember the spare will probably not fit over the Brembo package up front. In this case just put the spare on the rear. You can get away with this if you take it easy and don't drive too far. Did it on the Camaro once. After 50 miles or so started to get a whine when turning slow corners. After the tire repair, had the diff oil replaced and friction-modifier added. Seemed to work fine.
Had CAA do the tire change. Hey I'm getting too old. Don't understand why you guys want to change your own wheels when you have road-side-assistance available.
If you are worried about the diff, have AAA bring a flat-bed. Won't they do that?
Cheers.
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Does this mean if I went in a circle with my car for 24 hours straight that I'd burn up the LSD in back?