2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 06:59 AM
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[QUOTE=Stage_3;6967497]^^NICE!!!
There ya go Rick! Should be beastly. I assume you're keeping the Whipple and slapping it on there because of the blower cams? Going to up the boost a little? [/

Exactly !!! My wipple is going right on the new motor and keeping it at 15 lb of boost. We will see what happens after that.

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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 08:06 AM
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I'm glad you are getting a stronger engine. 15 PSI on stock internals is just a ticking time bomb. It should really be nice when you get it.
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 08:13 AM
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Do the 2015 style heads require a 2015 style ECU?
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 08:34 AM
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Do the 2015 style heads require a 2015 style ECU?
I'm sorry, yes it would !!! That was a mistake on the list that DSSracings sent me and forgot to change it before I copy and pasted it... my bad. !!! It will be 2012 style heads !!!
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 08:53 AM
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I'm glad you are getting a stronger engine. 15 PSI on stock internals is just a ticking time bomb. It should really be nice when you get it.
That was the main reason of my decision making. Besides that, since the motor is out, I have decided to change the clutch to a Spec(stage 3) which can handle 750 ft-lb of torque !!!
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SpectreH
I'm glad you are getting a stronger engine. 15 PSI on stock internals is just a ticking time bomb. It should really be nice when you get it.
Motor is in, Trans and exhaust work today probably, fuel system Tuesday-Wednesday hopefully and blower Thursday or Friday hopefully!!!!

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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 05:47 PM
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Pretty awesome Rick!
So, you should have your car back in a couple of weeks then? Keep us posted!
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 05:56 PM
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I have some questions for you Rick, about your build and chosing DSS.
How/why did you chose DSS?
How did you get your car to DSS? I'm assuming enclosed trailer transport?
Thanks man. I appreciate your reply.
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Old Feb 20, 2016 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stage_3
I have some questions for you Rick, about your build and chosing DSS.
How/why did you chose DSS?
How did you get your car to DSS? I'm assuming enclosed trailer transport?
Thanks man. I appreciate your reply.

I heard DSS makes good motors and Mustang Magic in Deer Park, NY referred them also. So I brought my car to Mustang Magic, then they took it from there.
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by STUKUP2112
I heard DSS makes good motors and Mustang Magic in Deer Park, NY referred them also. So I brought my car to Mustang Magic, then they took it from there.
Very good. Keep us posted bud.
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 01:53 PM
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Very good. Keep us posted bud.

BTW, also originally I was going to get the Aluminator Engine from Ford Racing sold by American Muscle, which is almost identical from the engine I got from DSSracing now, but Ford Racing discontinued my engine for the 2011-2014 platform. That's another reason why I went to DSSracing.
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by STUKUP2112
BTW, also originally I was going to get the Aluminator Engine from Ford Racing sold by American Muscle, which is almost identical from the engine I got from DSSracing now, but Ford Racing discontinued my engine for the 2011-2014 platform. That's another reason why I went to DSSracing.
That sucks.
So, no more Aluminator engines for the 2011-2014 Mustangs??
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 03:37 PM
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That sucks.
So, no more Aluminator engines for the 2011-2014 Mustangs??

Nope !!! You have to go outside Ford for now on for those years and more $$$$$$$ !!! There pushing the 2015-2016 Aluminator.
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by STUKUP2112
Nope !!! You have to go outside Ford for now on for those years and more $$$$$$$ !!! There pushing the 2015-2016 Aluminator.
Wow, that kinda sucks. Well,...at least they are still selling it.
I didn't know there was a '15/'16 Aluminator Engine as well. Very cool.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 08:26 AM
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Looking forward to your latest install results..
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 09:42 AM
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can I ask a DUMB question, forgive my ignorance .

But a 2015/2016 Ford crate engine/aluminator cannot/will not bolt on a 2010-2014 body? And if it can't, are the modifications SIMPLE to be able to do so? or are they not worth it/impossible?

Because if it does fit, then the fact that Ford discontinued the 2011-2014 5.0 coyotes is not an issue since we can order the 15/16!!!
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
can I ask a DUMB question, forgive my ignorance .

But a 2015/2016 Ford crate engine/aluminator cannot/will not bolt on a 2010-2014 body? And if it can't, are the modifications SIMPLE to be able to do so? or are they not worth it/impossible?

Because if it does fit, then the fact that Ford discontinued the 2011-2014 5.0 coyotes is not an issue since we can order the 15/16!!!

I believe the issue is the computer and possibly the wiring harness is different.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SpectreH
I believe the issue is the computer and possibly the wiring harness is different.
This is what I understand...the motor will bolt right in. It's the electronics that are not compatible.

What would the conversion cost? What is the solution? I suspect that swapping ECUs isn't an option since this would violate all kinds of emissions regulation-based software, VIN, etc...
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by STUKUP2112
Nope !!! You have to go outside Ford for now on for those years and more $$$$$$$ !!! There pushing the 2015-2016 Aluminator.
Ford Racing also got rid of the 340hp fox body 5.0L with aluminum heads, stock block, and e or b cam for $3600 and now the only option is with a boss block and all the hardware for the same hp but for around $6k. I was looking at the original version for my fox and now know I should have bought one last year.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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It's funny how these crate engines are so sporadically available.

Mopar Performance is notorious for this. For the longest time, they listed their Magnum 300 and Magnum 380 motors in the catalogue but they were perpetually on back order...now they're finally gone. In their place are bored/stroked small blocks (IIRC, they offer an LA/Smallblock 440!)...and it may be the same situation where they are seldom in stock.
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